Re: In the News: Jindal supports intelligent design as a viable
- From: Frank J <fnci@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 16, 7:45 am, Ron O <rokim...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 15, 8:24 pm, Paul J Gans <g...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ron O <rokim...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 15, 4:01 pm, Paul J Gans <g...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jason Spaceman <notrea...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From the article:
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Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal defended intelligent design as a legitimate
scientific discipline that has a place in the nation’s classrooms Sunday on
Face the Nation.
Jindal, the 37-year-old son of Indian immigrants, is considered to be on
John McCain’s short list for vice presidential candidates. Jindal said
media speculation touting him as a potential running mate for McCain
was “flattering”, according to an article by the Agence France Presse.
The moderator in the video below asked Jindal if he has doubts about
evolution since Jindal was a biology major in college.
“I’m a Christian,” Jindal said. “I do think that God played a role in
creating not only the earth but mankind. Now the way that he did it, I’d
certainly want my kids to be exposed to the very best science. I don’t want
any facts or theories or explanations to be withheld from them because of
political correctness.”
Jindal said that local school districts should decide for themselves what
theories to teach and that federal and state governments should stay out of
the equation.
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Read it at
http://rawstory.com/news08/2008/06/15/jindal-supports-intelligent-des...
Boy, that is the best "I'm for it and against it" statement
I've read recently.
There is nothing objectionable about what Jindal said. Many
people feel that God created this universe with a set of
natural laws and conditions such that the development of
Christians was inevitable.
That's a view that lies quite outside science, and while I
don't agree with it, I see no real reason why folks can't
have that view and do excellent science too.
Jinal is one clever fellow!
--He sounds like he hasn't thought his view through, or he is running
--- Paul J. Gans-
some scam.
Of course he's running a scam. He's a governor. My guess is that
he doesn't believe a word of the creationist crap. But it would
be impolitic to say so. And since he wants to have a future in
politics, he's doubtless studied up on ways to seem to be a
creationist.
And he seems to want to run with McCain -- though I can't for
the life of me figure out why.
You can't claim to want your kids to learn the best
science possible, and then claim that the local school boards should
decide what scientific theories they want to teach. Shouldn't you
want the best science taught? It is like Meyer claiming that the
decision of whether ID was science shouldn't be made at the state
level when he ran the bait and switch on the Ohio State board, but
people at the local school board level should be able to say whether
ID was science or not. What kind of people want the greatest level of
ignorance available when they have a decision that they want made?
Not honest people.
Of course. But think how good he makes the voters feel.
It is way too much to expect a politician to fall on his sword
espousing a cause. There's no future in it, either for the
politician or his causes.
When in creatin-country, act like one or close enough so that
the creatins don't catch on.
No, I'm not being cynical. It's the truth.
--
--- Paul J. Gans-
I have no doubt that there will be politicians that have to give the
antiscience creationists lip service to get their votes, but there are
politicians that fall the other way in the dishonesty department.
Guys like that fellow Fair in Carolina. Probably, a true believer and
he backed the intelligent design scam years ago, found out that it was
bogus, but came back as a switch scam advocate. These guys are
willing to lie about what they are trying to do, in order to do what
they think that they have to do. There are others that are more
honest about their beliefs like Huckabee. I can stomach the ignorance
of the Huckabees more than the dishonesty of the other two types.
Ron Okimoto- Hide quoted text -
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Huckabee might not be as honest as he seems. When Michael Medved
corrected a caller on his radio show by saying that Huckabee is
probably not a young-Earther (& I'm not sure he even said "probably")
I suspected that Huckabee had some conversations with DI folk, as
Medved was having at the time (shortly before he became a Fellow) We
know that the DI courts far-right politicians instead of doing
science. Since the ID scam took over "Not a young-Earther" does not
necessarily mean "old-Earther" but also one who is clued in on the
strategic value of "don't ask, don't tell." That's the first step from
"scammed" to "scammer."
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