Re: Why is there something, not nothing?

On Jun 13, 4:21 pm, AC <mojo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:33:43 -0700 (PDT),

Scott Erb <scott...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:54 pm, AC <mojo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Seeming bizarre" is not the same as "wild speculation".

When anti-matter was first posited by I believe Dirac, he thought it
was too wild a speculation to make public. Murray Gell Man's idea of
quarks were seen as such. You attach the label "wild" as a way of
argument by insult (you seem to like to try to use insult as a
tactic), but what differentiates speculation from 'wild' speculation?

QM, for instance,
may have some very counterintuitive notions, but it wasn't just dreamed up
and the proven true, it was, in fact, founded in sound emperical research.

Empirical, not emperical. (I didn't correct you last time, but since
you've made that spelling error a couple times now, I thought I
should). And actually most of it was not due to empirical research
but mathematical modeling.

The Higgs particle is predicted by theory to exist. It wasn't just imagined
one night by wild-and-crazy physicists or mathematicians.

Your argument is not logical. You are differentiating between
speculation by positing some as 'wild and crazy' but it's not clear
why, and you have no support.

I'm asking for a
specific example, and your simply regurgitating the idea that something
seeming to bizarre somehow being the equivalent of wild speculation.

Since you are the only one talking about 'wild speculation' without
any support, you have no standing to ask me for anything along those
lines. You should address the specifics of the arguments given,
rather than go off on some tangent that is more labeling without
reason than any kind of argument.

So, do you actually have any examples, or can we just chalk this up to "I so
want my crazy idea to be science that I'll claim that's how science is
done".

Examples of what? I think you should go and re-read the thread and
react to specifics.
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