Re: the nazis banned darwin and upheld christian literature
- From: j.wilkins1@xxxxxxxxx (John Wilkins)
- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:22:20 +1000
Suzanne <shiloh7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 07:03:18 -0700, "Mike Painter"The common language in Jerusalem in the time of Jesus
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Ye Old One wrote:
Actually, it's not a thing like knowing Sherlock Holmes.
Yes it is, both SH and JC are fictional characters. Both were invented
by men, both may (or may not) have been based on real people and their
stories include references to real people and places. But fictional
they are, so it impossible know either personally.
There is a difference. The people who wrote about JC did not know the
area
in which he lived with near the accuracy that SH's writer did.
Indeed the people who created Jesus didn't even know Hebrew very
well; they did not know "Nazarine" did not mean "Someone born in
Nazareth;" nor did they know that Nazareth did not exist during
the time they said Jesus lived.
was not Hebrew, it was Greek that was the common
"lingua franca" of that day. Hebrew had not been the common
language for some time. As a result, some of the ancient
Hebrew is lost. That's one of the reasons that scholars look
to the Greek Septuagint in order to find meanings of the
words that they are not sure about in Hebrew. The Greek
Septuagint was translated by Jews who spoke Hebrew
300 years before the birth of Christ, and who also spoke
Greek. They translated it for the Jews who lived abroad
who no longer knew the Hebrew in the several hundred
years prior to the birth of Christ.
Actually the common language was Aramaic, a language related to Hebrew.
Greek was the *trading* and *administrative* language (that's what
"lingua franca" means, by the way). Jesus spoke Aramaic natively as two
of the ipsissima verba of Jesus are the "Talitha cumi" (little girl, get
up) and "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabach thani" (my God, my God, why have you
forsaken me?), both in Aramaic.
The idea that there was supposedly no such town as
Nazareth in Jesus' time was long ago laid to rest,
since it was discovered that the town is referred to
in an inscription found at Caesarea Maritima. There
also was a man who was in a trial who was from
Nazareth that is recorded in history. As you know
probably, the Bible also confirms it.
http://www.geocities.com/metagetics/Nazareth.html
Such things as were known to the writer of Sherlock's
The books about the life of Sherlock Holmes are far more accurate
than the book about Jesus.
stories lived much closer to our time. The land in and
around Jerusalem was torn down, and had been set on
fire in an attempt to destroy it. However, even these few
thousands of years later, evidence is still being found,
and Jerusalem and much of the land is still yielding
it's information.
Suzanne
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Philosophy
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
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