Re: thoughts on Jesus

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Scríobh Vernon Balbert <vbalbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
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"John Wilkins" <j.wilkins1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If 3, then one wonders at the necessity for the gap itself.
Why, for example, think there is a "soul" if "soul" is never
investigable?
I don't follow your logic there, the belief is addressing the
gap, not creating the gap. People talk about the "soul" as an
expression for things we cannot otherwise explain, if we stop
talking about the soul that does not eliminate those things
our wonderment at what causes them.
You know as well as I do that the soul means something very
different to most Christians. It's supposed to be that
indefinable part of you that ascends to heaven after death (or
descends to hell),
It is more than that:

"The soul, according to many religious and philosophical
traditions, is the
self-aware essence unique to a particular living being. In these
traditions
the soul is thought to incorporate the inner essence of each
living being,
and to be the true basis for sapience, rather than the brain or
any other material or natural part of the biological organism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul

and as such it is
religion creating the gap.
So you reckon that if there were no religion then Man would not
wonder where
his sapience comes from?
Religion was created primarily for this reason.
A bit of explanation would be useful about exactly *how* Man,
unique among species, created religion.
I thought I had explained it. It's called imagination and a
desire to explain how the world works.

What is this 'imagination' thing you are taking about, where does
it come from, how does it work?

You're being somewhat insulting here, but it comes from
electro-chemical activity in the brain. How it works is a question
that's being seriously debated by scientists.

When you're not very sophisticated you
imagine that things happen for a reason and if they happen for a
reason that means there's an intelligence behind that reason. And
if somebody is so powerful that he can make the sun come up every
morning, you're in awe of that power and you figure that he's
powerful enough to smite you and so you need to appease him. Other
animals do not have the capacity to think in such a sophisticated
way, or if they do, we haven't been able to detect it. (Do you
speak chimpanzee?)

This 'imagination' seems to be a very pwerful tool for survival,
how come man is the only species to have developed it to a
significant extent?

Because man is the only species to have a brain sophisticated enough
to have it.

Well, as far as we know, and there is some debate on the issue.

Where is the debate?


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