Re: AIG on Natural Selection

On 12 May, 16:06, backspace <sawireless2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v6/i4/naturalselection.asp

"...Natural selection is simply the effect the natural world has on
living things, selecting out living forms that can survive from those
that can’t handle their environment and therefore perish. ...."

Other than noting that certain forms perished how was it determined
that they couldn't handle the environment ?

AIG's definition is a little lacking - it's not about whether animals
live or die, but the quality of their offspring. But to answer your
question, the word 'therefore' means that perishing is a consequence
of being unable to handle the environment.

The rest of that article is riotously poor, however. And look at the
date! May 1984! I didn't realise they were explicitly talking about
Intelligent Design even then.

They even make the same argument made today by ID people: "You could
not get new information without Intelligent Design." And like ID, they
don't bother to back that up. The article doesn't even mention
mutation!

Have the ID people ever actually addressed gene duplication? Since we
know that

a) Genes can and do get duplicated
b) This isn't always harmful (sometimes it's actually good to have
lots of copies of a gene, I'm told)
c) Duplicated genes can and do mutate in ways different from the gene
they were duplicated from
d) Their effects can be selected for

and the killer,

e) We can actually see genes which look like modified copies of others

is there any reason to let ID people get away with pretending no
natural explanation exists? Gene duplication seems to me to be a
pretty darn good explanation with evidence, although IANABiologist,
naturally.

How can ID people not be ashamed that they haven't progressed from
THIS in a quarter of a century.

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