Re: Scientific Disproof of Catholic Dogma?

r norman <r_s_norman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:13:41 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Fri, 2 May 2008 12:44:55 -0700, macaddicted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(macaddicted) wrote:

John Wilkins <j.wilkins1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

r norman <r_s_norman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 01 May 2008 23:16:47 -0400, Caranx latus <karode@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

r norman wrote:
On Thu, 01 May 2008 22:55:05 -0400, Caranx latus
<karode@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

r norman wrote:
On Thu, 01 May 2008 18:34:22 -0700, John Harshman
<jharshman.diespamdie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ann.Broomhead@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
One of Goedel's lesser known works is the proof that it is
IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE A NEGATIVE.
Either you or Goedel is out to lunch, and I'm betting on you.
I can easily prove, for example, that no triangle can have a
sum of angles other than 180 degrees, which would seem to be a
negative.
<nitpick>
At least not in Euclidean space.
</nitpick>
<nitpick>
At least not in Euclidean geometries.
</nitpick>

<nitpick>
All Euclidean spaces have Euclidean geometry.
</nitpick>

Incidentally, the tags are quite superfluous. Pretty much everything
on t.o. meets the criteria.

Some non-Euclidean geometries, spherical geometries for example, exist
quite happily in Euclidean spaces, don't they?

The nonEuclidean 2D space, the surface of a sphere, is embedded in the
Euclidean 3D space. But in the 3D space, triangles have "straight
line" sides and don't bend around the sphere. See Wikipedia, for
example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_space
which says "An essential property of a Euclidean space is its
flatness. Other spaces exist in geometry that are not Euclidean. For
example, the surface of a sphere is not; ..."

But all this is rather a nitpick, isn't it?

I'm really glad that I haven't contributed to this thread, as people
might think philosophy was all about mitpickery.

THIS is why I became a theologian.

Geez, I barely survived Calculus 3. Theology makes so much more sense.

I'll bet that almost 1% of ministers and priests have taken any
calculus. They're a bit like lawyers that way.

One of my daughters is a lawyer who took advanced calc through
differential equations. My other daughter is a philosopher who took
invertebrate zoology and organic chemistry. Go figure!

Actually I made it to DiffEq and PChem before I gave up.
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by those who love her and is found by those who seek her.
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