Re: evolution: can someone please correct (or confirm???) my



Ray Martinez wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:09 pm, "Dana Tweedy" <reddfr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Ray Martinez" <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

news:dde42a6c-24f5-4856-bd05-e2581a738967@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Apr 24, 4:51 pm, "Dana Tweedy" <reddfr...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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It's irrelevant what degree Wells has. He's still wrong. The 'plain fact'
is that the peppered moth studies are a good example of natural selection
on
a population. You seem to have not bothered to take Well's
anti-evolutionary agenda into account.
Everyone knows that Wells is an antievolutionist.
Do you know *Why* Wells is an antievolutionist? It has nothing to do with
scientific reasons. Wells is a member of Moon's Unification Church
(Moonies) This is his own statement of why he opposes evolution.

"Father's [Moon's] words, my studies, and my prayers convinced me that I
should devote my life to destroying Darwinism, just as many of my fellow
Unificationists had already devoted their lives to destroying Marxism. When
Father chose me to enter a PhD program in 1978, I welcomed the opportunity
to prepare myself for battle."http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Wells/0-Toc.htm

Also see:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jonathan_Wells


Quote mine.

Jonathan Wells full story and reasons for opposing evolution include
the fact that by his own admission the theory is not supported by the
evidence (which is what I have also concluded); and that he did not
have the "faith to believe in it anymore." Wells was an evolutionist,
the facts convinced him that the theory is false. Exclusion of this
crucial information is why you have engaged in quote mining.

According to Wells' own words (http://www.tparents.org/library/unification/talks/wells/DARWIN.htm):

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He [Father] also spoke out against the evils in the world; among them, he frequently criticized Darwin's theory that living things originated without God's purposeful, creative activity. My studies included modern theologians who took Darwinism for granted and thus saw no room for God's involvement in nature or history; in the process, they re- interpreted the fall, the incarnation, and even God as products of human imagination.

Father's words, my studies, and my prayers convinced me that I should devote my life to destroying Darwinism, just as many of my fellow Unificationists had already devoted their lives to destroying Marxism. When Father chose me (along with about a dozen other seminary graduates) to enter a Ph.D. program in 1978, I welcomed the opportunity to prepare myself for battle.

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When I finished my Yale Ph.D., I felt confident that I understood the theological basis of the conflict between Darwinism and theism.

....

I eventually decided to join the fray by returning to graduate school in biology. I was convinced that embryology is the Achilles' heel of Darwinism; one cannot understand how organisms evolve unless one understands how they develop. In 1989, I entered a second Ph.D. program, this time in biology, at the University of California at Berkeley. While there, I studied embryology and evolution.

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Wells' objection to Darwinism was originally religiously based: he was never what you would consider an evolutionist. However, I could be wrong.

It could just be that Wells isn't the best authority on Wells, and that you know better than he. Perhaps you could elaborate on why you think that Wells was ever an evolutionist.

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