Re: More Evidence: Hitler-Nazi's were staunch Darwinists;

Ray Martinez wrote:

On Apr 4, 11:20 am, Martin Kaletsch <mano...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:
On Apr 3, 12:31 am, Martin Kaletsch <mano...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:
You were making sense right until the very end or the last phrase.
But scholarship makes none of your distinctions, Howard. Professor
Evans of Cambridge said Hitler based his actions on Darwinian
science.

Can you give me the place where he said this again, Ray? It seems I
have missed it the first time you copied the quotes from the
creationist website.

How could Martin be unable to scroll backwards in this topic and find
my message containing the source?

I have read your message and did not find any mention of Darwin or the
theory of evolution.


It was in the original message that you responded to and this latest
message. You responded to both messages and even asked for further
information, that is the references in Evans's text.

You are a liar.

You are very quick with this accusation. Is your conscience bothering you
for your own lies.

He also implies that if the source
were to be a creationist then this somehow renders the facts not to be
facts.

No, I am implying that you do not possess the book in question, as you
did not answer my question for the sources Evans gave for the quotes.

Then how did I obtain the quotes? If they were via website you could
have googled and found them too. Since they were not via website I
told the truth, which there was no reason to doubt in the first place.

My reason to doubt was, as I wrote above, that you did never answer my
question for further references on the sources you quoted from the book.
Why didn't you.

Darwinists as a tactic simply lie about their opponent and type
phrases that assume that their opponent is an admitted liar; as if
their opponent has admitted.

You never admitted to being a liar, that's true. Few liars do. But it is not
necessary to prove someone is a liar to have him admit it, you only have to
compare his lies with reality. And there, Ray, your position doesn't look
to good.

They make things up like you have about
me concerning copying things from a creationist website which I have
never done.

And you will never admit that you lied here, but you have posted several
excerpts from creationist sources in the past.

Dana Tweedy engages in these types of vicious lies on a
regular basis. Both of you are enraged about the truth and attack the
messenger. It is the oldest tactic in the book.

What book? Must be your book, as you are regularly exposed as a liar in this
forum and still go on repeating the same old lies.

Your implication calls me a liar without any justification.

There is enough justification for calling you a liar, as has been shown many
times on this ng.

This is
totally evil since I quoted Evans directly from his book. Both mesages
said this plainly.

Then why did you not answer my question concerning further references?

You are angry about the truth of Hitler and Darwin and are engaged in
classic poisoning the well/messenger.

I am not angry. I merely seem to know a bit more on the subject than you
and wanted to engage you in a discussion, which you ignored until you found
a possibility to start another of your hate filled, paranoid rant instead
of talking about evidence.

So I
assumed that you, as you have done several times in this ng, just copied
a hand full of out-of-context quotes from a creationist website.

Since both messages in which I quoted Evans said they were from his
book this is a lie.

I assumed something. Assuming something is not the same thing as lying. You
never answered my questions and when I stated my suspicion, you did not
correct me. From that I concluded that my suspicion was right. If it
wasn't, I made a mistake, which still is not a lie.


And I have never copied anything from a creationist site and I have
never quoted anyone out of context.

And who is lying now?

If they were from any website you
would have googled and found them. This is how we know you lied.

"We" again? Talk for yourself, I don't think anybody agrees with you.

Since you read both messages you knew this: they were from Evans's
book and not out of context.

I know you claimed them to be from Evans book (which I did never deny, I
only wondered by which way you found them) and there was no context!

You just cannot accept the truth that
Darwin inspired Hitler.

If this is such a simple truth, could it be difficult to find a single quote
by Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Hess or any other Nazi leader citing Darwin
and his works?

The quotes say it plainly and to say something
is out of context is a lie. It is up to you prove out of context. But
since you cannot you just assume because the quotes hurt Darwinism.

The quotations, yes, I commented on them, stating clearly why they, in my
opinion, did not support your case. Now, why did you snip that part? Could
it be that you don't really want to talk evidence, but try to win that
argument by calling my a liar and doing some pointless ranting? And, by the
way, there was no context to the quotes.

There is nothing left to discuss with you.

So, as you cannot give any evidence to support your claims you use this as a
convinient exit.

I will not allow anyone to
lie to my face to this degree.

You really got hung up on that.

You can have the last word and assert
how truthful you are and justify your lies.

Compared to you, Münchhausen was truthfull.

Your fellow howlers will
undoubtedly ignore all of your lies and misrepresentations as they too
have done the exact same.

And what about the evidence for your claims?

I will not be reading or responding to anymore of your messages.

That threat hardly frightens me.

There
is no reason since there is nothing to gain.

No, there really isn't as you are absolutely unwilling to talk about
evidence and facts but only repeat the same old hatefilled rants.

Anyone who wastes their
time by responding to a liar like you or Dana Tweedy has no integrity.

I don't ask for the logic behind that statement.

I only respond to Dana when he produces a message without any brazen
lies, which amounts to about 1 out of 10.

If you reached that ratio, it would be an improvement.

But as we all know he
responds to every message I write because the truth hurts and I have
him on a perpetual meat hook.

Well, if that thought is comforting to you, I will leave you with it.

--
Martin Kaletsch
"It was the laugh of the Elder Gods observing their creature man and noting
their omissions, miscalculations and mistakes." Fritz Leiber

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