Re: How did a monkey give birth to a human ?

On Apr 3, 9:30 am, backspace <sawireless2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 2, 3:19 pm, Woland <jerryd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/KermitPragmatics
Kermit told us ".. > Many evolutionary scientists have never read
Darwin. Certainly current > ideas do not depend on how he used or
defined terms...."
Exactly, it makes no difference as to what Darwin posited.

If it makes no difference then this is the first theory in the history
of science where we have this remarkable situation - why are you using
the same term "natural selection" if you don't intend the same thing
Darwin intended:

If you ask simply where I am, it doesn't matter how I got there.

In fact, it's pretty stupid to keep pointing out that it's not where I
used to be, if you claim you want to know where I am.

It's even sillier to ask who formally defined my location, and why
isn't it in Wikipedia.

Science is not religious dogma, founded by a prophet, whose words are
pored over with a desperate hope of seeing something reassuring in a
Rorschach inkblot. It is a living thing, shapes by the world of facts.

'..... NS is a force incessantly ready for action...'
- that is what Darwin wrote do a search on the text file you can
download from gutenbergpress on the term "....force incessantly ready
for action...." then what on earth you people talking about ? What
theory defined where that William Province labels "natural selection"
which he insists "does nothing" and isn't a force is he talking about.

Since you always misrepresent what people say, it would be a waste of
time trying to answer your demands to explain someone else. You would
only (deliberately, I suspect) misunderstand the response.

Is Provine perhaps on drugs ? How could he say that NS does nothing if
Darwin said the exact opposite and then insist that Darwin was wrong !

Perhaps Provine is wrong.
Perhaps the context is different.

Why is he then using Darwin's label.http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/WilliamProvinePragmatics

In any event, nobody claimed it was literally a force.

This subject matter is over your head. Nobody claims that is
*literally true, but it's true nonetheless. Moreover, it's true in the
only sense that phrase means anything.

Kermit

.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: How did a monkey give birth to a human ?
    ... If it makes no difference then this is the first theory in the history ... Darwin intended: '..... ... theory defined where that William Province labels "natural selection" ... which he insists "does nothing" and isn't a force is he talking about. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Hershey ends up proving Admans point
    ... I have done a lot of reading on Darwin the man. ... hierarchy was based on prior guesswork going as far back as Aristotle. ... into a hierarchy of collective units enclosed one within another. ... therefore the bible is literally true ...
    (talk.origins)