Re: And the winner is *** Post of the Month for November 2006 ***

Ray Martinez wrote:
On Mar 17, 6:06 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:59 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ray,

I snipped almost all of what both of us wrote in the preceding
posts because I like focusing on central issues....

In other words

In other words, you cannot win without making people say things they didn't say.

you received a spanking.

Keep telling yourself that, Ray. No one else believes it.

....and believe
that the following statement from you is directed to the core
issue that separates us:

RM> There isn't any evidence for evolution - none.

For the past year or so the starting point evidence for
evolution that I have been posting is as follows:

These fossils illustrate the step by step evolution of the
human brain over the past 2.5 million years from about 450cc
to it's present size of about 1350cc:

STS 5
Mrs. Ples
Species: Australopithecus africanus
Age: 2.6 million years
Brain Size: 485cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/sts5.html

STS 71
Species: Australopithecus africanus
Age: 2.5 million years
Brain Size: 428cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/sts71.html

KNM ER 1813
Species: Homo habilis
Age: 1.9 million years
Brain Size: 510cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/ER1813.html

KNM ER 1470
Species: Homo rudolfensis
Age: 1.8 million years
Brain Size: 775cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/er1470.html

KNM ER 3733
Species: Homo ergaster
Age: 1.75 million years
Brain Size: 850 cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/ER3733.html

KNM WT 15000
"The Turkana Boy"
Species: Homo ergaster
Age: 1.6 million years
Brain Size: 880cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/WT15k.html
rotatable skull here:
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/qt/wt15kmov.html

Peking Man
Species: Homo erectus
Age: 500-230 thousand years
Brain Size: 1043cc (average of 5 skulls)
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/weid2.htm

"Rhodesian Man"
Species: Homo heidelbergensis
Age: 300-125 thousand years
Brain Size: 1300 cc
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/brokenhill.htm

Skhul V
Species: Homo sapiens
Age: ~90,000 years
Brain Size: modern (~1350cc)
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/skhul.html

Cro-Magnon 1
Species: Homo sapiens
Age: ~30,000 years
Brain Size: modern (~1350cc)
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/cromagnon.html

Can you tell me why this group of fossils doesn't qualify as
"evidence for evolution"?

Cordially;

Friar Broccoli
Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
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--------- I consider ALL arguments in support of my views ---------

Homo-erectus is a child,

Homo erectus (no hyphen) is known from a number of individuals.

does not cranial capacity increase when
adulthood is reached?

Didn't you notice that the H.e. cranial capacity was given as the average of 5 individuals?

And what happened to Neanderthal Man?

Why? Do you want to have another real Homo genus to ignore, just as you have ignored all of the others?

In any case, you have no mechanism to accomplish this miracle (= apes
morphing into men) which is based on rejection of Genesis miracles. In
other words, you have no choice. Evolution is a one horse race since
it rejects Creationism as a competitor. Nobody has ever provided a
satisfactory reply to these points that places the ball back into my
court.

Waiting....

In other words, you are running away as you always do.

Your intellectual cowardice is noted.

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