Re: And the winner is *** Post of the Month for November 2006 ***

On Mar 17, 6:06 pm, Friar Broccoli <Elia...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:59 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ray,

I snipped almost all of what both of us wrote in the preceding
posts because I like focusing on central issues....

In other words you received a spanking.

....and believe
that the following statement from you is directed to the core
issue that separates us:

RM> There isn't any evidence for evolution - none.

For the past year or so the starting point evidence for
evolution that I have been posting is as follows:

  These fossils illustrate the step by step evolution of the
  human brain over the past 2.5 million years from about 450cc
  to it's present size of about 1350cc:

  STS 5
  Mrs. Ples
  Species:  Australopithecus africanus
  Age:      2.6 million years
  Brain Size: 485cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/sts5.html

  STS 71
  Species:  Australopithecus africanus
  Age:      2.5 million years
  Brain Size: 428cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/sts71.html

  KNM ER 1813
  Species:  Homo habilis
  Age:      1.9 million years
  Brain Size: 510cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/ER1813.html

  KNM ER 1470
  Species:  Homo rudolfensis
  Age:      1.8 million years
  Brain Size: 775cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/er1470.html

  KNM ER 3733
  Species:  Homo ergaster
  Age:      1.75 million years
  Brain Size: 850 cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/ER3733.html

  KNM WT 15000
  "The Turkana Boy"
  Species:  Homo ergaster
  Age:      1.6 million years
  Brain Size:  880cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/WT15k.html
  rotatable skull here:
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/qt/wt15kmov.html

  Peking Man
  Species:  Homo erectus
  Age:      500-230 thousand years
  Brain Size: 1043cc (average of 5 skulls)
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/weid2.htm

  "Rhodesian Man"
  Species:  Homo heidelbergensis
  Age:     300-125 thousand years
  Brain Size: 1300 cc
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/brokenhill.htm

  Skhul V
  Species:  Homo sapiens
  Age:      ~90,000 years
  Brain Size:  modern (~1350cc)
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/skhul.html

  Cro-Magnon 1
  Species:  Homo sapiens
  Age:      ~30,000 years
  Brain Size:  modern (~1350cc)
 http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/cromagnon.html

Can you tell me why this group of fossils doesn't qualify as
"evidence for evolution"?

 Cordially;

 Friar Broccoli
 Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada  Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
 Best programmer's & all purpose text editor:http://www.semware.com

 --------- I consider ALL arguments in support of my views ---------

Homo-erectus is a child, does not cranial capacity increase when
adulthood is reached? And what happened to Neanderthal Man?

In any case, you have no mechanism to accomplish this miracle (= apes
morphing into men) which is based on rejection of Genesis miracles. In
other words, you have no choice. Evolution is a one horse race since
it rejects Creationism as a competitor. Nobody has ever provided a
satisfactory reply to these points that places the ball back into my
court.

Waiting....

Ray


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