Re: A glossary of Pitmanese

On Feb 20, 1:53 pm, Scooter the Mighty <Greyg...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm not sure how one would "look this up."  Who exactly observed
this?  Can you link to their paper, or provide a reference?  How do
you tell how many amino acids are "fairly specified?"

You "look it up" by checking the literature dealing with examples of
evolution in action to see if any of the known examples that we have
produce any novel systems of function that require a minimum
structural threshold of at least 1000aa to work.  If you can find just
one example at this level or beyond, you will falsify my position.
Plain and simple.

Now hold on a second here!  You started this bit of thread with a
positive claim- that 1000 "fairly specified" amino acids was an
observed threshold beyond which nothing could evolve.

Not quite. It is an observed threshold beyond which nothing has been
observed to evolve. There's a difference.

 I ask for
details about the observation (and you were the one who claimed there
was one) and now all of a sudden I have to search through the
literature and try to disprove it?  

The observation is a negative observation that is indeed falsifiable
by a single example of a positive. You do understand that negative
hypotheses are quite useful in science?

How does that work? Is this in
fact an observation, or is it something that you made up that no one
has yet disproven, possibly because few people if anyone actually try
to determine how many amino acids in a protein are "fairly
specified"?

The lack of an event is just as much an observation as the
demonstration of an event. For example, I observe that none of the
cows that I have ever seen have ever jumped as high as my house. I
therefore hypothesize that no cow can jump as high as my house.
That's a hypothesis based on an observation of a negative - which is
quite a valid observation.

Should be easy to do if in fact any such examples are known to exist.  Good
luck . . .

Yeah, it should be easy if scientists actually go through the work of
determing how many "fairly specified" amino acids are in the proteins
they study.  Can you link me up with a paper where the number of
"fairly specified" amino acids are determined in a protein? For that
matter, can you link me up with a paper that shows that a protein with
1000 "fairly specified" amino acids actually exists? What is the
definition of "fairly specified?"  It isn't a term that google scholar
seems to be familar with.

I've explained these terms extensively in this forum and on my website
if you care to look in those places.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


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Relevant Pages

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