Re: Scientific prediction about evolution, age of chimps and bonabos

On Feb 14, 10:17 pm, MobyDikc <mobyd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So, I was thinking.

I know that there are chimpanzees and bonobos.

From what I know, they are pretty genetically similar.

One difference between them is the chimps are run by males and the
bonobos are run by females.

To make this hypothesis work, we will need to make one postulate:

Given long enough, a society, of any species, will be dominated by
females.

If we were to assume that's true, just for the sake of developing a
hypothesis, then evolution would have us assume that the bonobos are
older cultures of chimpanzees, or maybe branched off earlier than
chimps and humans.

Of course, it's a sort of flimsy hypothesis.

But does anyone know the facts on it?

If humans, chimps, and bonobos are "cousins", do we know whether or
not bonobos are the oldest?

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The following is the most popular theory for explaining
chimp/bonobo differences. It is a copy paste from:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/07/3/l_073_03.html

"Why, then, have chimps not evolved this social structure? The answer
may lie in the history of the habitats they occupy. Both species of
primates live in tropical forests along the Zaire River -- chimps
north of the river, bonobos to the south. Their environments seem to
be quite similar today. But about 2.5 million years ago, there seems
to have been a lengthy drought in southern Zaire that wiped out the
preferred food plants of gorillas and sent the primates packing. After
the drought ended, the forests returned, but the gorillas did not.

Chimpanzees in this environment south of the river had the forest to
themselves, and could exploit the fiber foods that had previously been
eaten by gorillas -- foods that are still eaten by gorillas to the
north. With this additional food to tide them over between fruit
trees, they could travel in larger, more stable parties, and form
strong social bonds. They became bonobos.

On the north side of the river, the chimps had to share their niche
with gorillas, which eat the fiber foods. The chimps have to compete
for fruit, and occasionally meat, food resources that tend to be
widely scattered. Female chimps disperse into the forest with their
infants to find enough to eat, and cannot spend time together to forge
strong bonds. The changes in social behavior that occurred in response
to this environmental factor may be what led chimps down a different
evolutionary path, toward a society more prone to violence."


So basically the female bonbons have come to an arrangement
with the males. You don't beat on us, and you can have sex
any time you want. And they can enforce the arrangement
because they can and do work together as a group.

If a band of chimps crosses the Zaire river, I think they will
exterminate the bonobos

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