Re: real theories vs imaginary tales such as natural selection



On Feb 6, 3:58 pm, "nando_rontel...@xxxxxxxxx"
<nando_rontel...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The recursive, incursive and hyperincursive mathematical concepts
developed by Dubois and somebody else that I forgot about. The papers
aren't freely available online anymore.

But besides math, there is also common sense on why this is true, that
things must have a future, and a future can only be a future if it is
anticipated. For else if we say that the start state can fully
determine the next state in time, as is argued in most all science,
then are we not saying by that, in information terms, that the future
is in the past (and present)? For we could then get the full
information content of the future state from the past state, so
regular science means that the future is in the past, which does not
make common sense.

So, you're saying that there is no such thing as free will, because
the future is the past, and you can't change the past, therefor you
can't change the future. Is that what you're trying to say?


Dubois says this differently, he says that by entering the variables
into an equation, for instance a gravity equation, then you determine
it's final state. You see as a matter of mathematics the equation just
goes on predictably so when you enter in the values to the equations
you get the information value for all times, and not just for the time
that belongs to the value you put in.


Same as above.


So from there on he says well wait, putting in the values is a
decision moment that determines everything. And from there he get's to
stepping through time deciding the values with the equations
selfrefferentially following the maupertuis least action principle,
something, something, something.

"...something, something, something..." Is that a techical term, oris
that the best you can do on paraphrasing what he was talking about?


Which all doesn't matter it is sophisticated, because we basically all
know what he's talking about, he's talking about things that turn one
way or another, decisions.


What dos this have to do with your claims that this is how
creationists think? It sounds like you're attempting
"technobabble". If so, it's not working, you still come across as a
babbling idiot.


Boikat

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