Re: How Our Brains Ignore Unpleasant Facts was: Re: The Reasonable

On 2008-01-10, Evopeach <keaton1943@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 10, 12:01 pm, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 10Jan2008 09:05:04 -0800, Evopeach wrote:
OnJan10, 9:00 am, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 09Jan2008 16:38:09 -0800, Evopeach wrote:
OnJan9, 2:33 pm, Walter Bushell <pr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <47827fbc$0$26566$882e0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 07Jan2008 11:09:36 -0800, Evopeach wrote:

OnJan7, 12:40 pm, Gene Poole <gene.po...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Evopeach wrote:
OnJan7,8:50 am, Augray <aug...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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God's universe is not particularly open to your
criticism.....He hardly needs advice from you.

But apparently you have no problem speaking on his behalf.-
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No but I am well acquainted with the scriptures and biblical
truth.

Then why act as though you're completely ignorant of them?  Please
point to your posts that you consider to be most Christlike, that
contain the most humility, that do not judge others, etc.

Being a biblical literalist implies at least some familiarity with
the Bible.  You're not even up to that level yet.

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Define literally...its a widely interpreted term.  wooden, rational,
thoughtful , etc.

I've noticed that when creationists realize they've lost an argument,
they retreat into the dictionary.  However, if you honestly don't
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If I ever lose an argument to an evo..alias scientific
neanderthal...I'll be sure and read Orwell.

Just curious -- how will you know when that happens?

One of the most important things a scientist ever learns is how to tell
when they're wrong.  The universe of bad ideas far outnumbers the good
ideas, and folks who latch on to a bad one and can't let go end up
wrecking their careers.

I have a Ph.D. advisory committee to help me with this, as well as my
doctoral advisor and fellow students.  There's an entire body of
literature that I'm now familiar with that lists what has worked and what
has failed.  I have, bless 'em, anonymous reviewers who have no
difficulty telling me exactly where and how I'm wrong.  And not least, I
attend conferences where I can get together with people who are working
in my field and compare notes.

How do you know when you're wrong?

Trying to figure it out for yourself is notoriously unreliable -- that's
why science has all of this institutional structure.  Normally I'd say
that doing a literature review is the quickest way to get grounded in
reality, but either you're not reading what you claim to be reading or
you're simply not understanding it.  

And that's the problem, I think.  You haven't shown any curiosity to find
out whether you're right or not.  I think you're afraid that you might be
wrong -- why else would you be posting here?  But testing your views
would require some heavy mental lifting, and you've decided it's not
worth the effort.

In short, you're lazy.

I'm still mystified when I run across folks like you.  I guess I was
raised to see knowledge as something valuable.  Three months ago I knew
nothing about the first few verses of Genesis and, using nothing more
than a few book recommendations I picked up from folks here and a good
university library, I can now tell when people like you are making things
up.  All it took was a bit of investment of my time and attention.

Think about that -- because I invested a dozen hours in reading for
understanding, I not only know the strengths and weaknesses of my
position, I know the strengths and weaknesses of your position, too.  You
don't have this knowledge, and so you can't even begin a debate.  You're
left with a handful of assertions and, when they run out, insults that I
might have found effective in junior high school.

For example:



Coming from the Newspeak crowd you're almost funny......if you weren't
pitiful.

Let me know when you have the courage to be curious.  There are a lot of
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Let's see now thirty-five years of adulthood reading at least one book
per week usually one fiction and one non-fiction, two
degrees, working on a third, five years in defense system
engineering , seven years in operations research and mgmt. sc., five
years in mineral economics and investment analysis, seven years in
executive mgmt., three years in retail management, seven years in
college level higher education. I'm sure your background and
experience is much broader.

Wow, all that, and you are *still* an idiot.

Let that be a lesson to all you kids out there. I'm not sure what the
lesson should be, other than perhaps old people can be incredibly stupid
too, but whatever the lesson, you should learn it.

Mark

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