Re: Richard says Rupert Morrish is wrong

On Dec 21, 1:38 pm, richardalanforr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Sean, it's not a "one part notion".
It's what's called "hypothesis testing".
It's an essential element in something called "science".

You are only testing one element of a two element hypothesis Richard.
That isn't enough to detect an artifact as being a true artifact.

Science does *not* involve making sweeping generalisations about how
objects are made, categorising them as made by "deliberate" or "non-
deliberate" and asserting that such generalisations are statistical
conclusions.

Science most certainly can be used to make very useful sweeping
generalizations. That is what induction is all about. That is how
those like Newton and Einstein could claim, based on relatively little
data, that their theories applied everywhere in the entire universe.

Of course, you could prove me wrong by producing *any* reference to
*any* paper in *any* branch of science or mathematics which publishes
statistical conclusions which are *not* based on a numerical dataset.

Useful scientific conclusions based on valid statistical analysis need
not be published or even written down.

Statistics is a branch of mathematics. It's a precise mathematical
tool, not an excuse for making generalisations and guesswork.

Generalizations - yes; completely blind guesswork - no. Statistics
can be used to make generalizations and useful statitical analysis can
be done without ever writing anything down. Again, this is the basis
for your ability to recognize a highly symmetrical polished granite
cube as an "anomaly" even if you found it on an alien planet. You
wouldn't be able to do this without at least some experience based in
at least some degree of written or non-written statistical analysis.

RF

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Richard says Rupert Morrish is wrong
    ... More bullshit, Sean. ... Generalizations - yes; completely blind guesswork - no. Statistics ... All you are doing is making unfounded assertions. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: POTM nomination: Nothing but a fairytale
    ... The Earth has no moon. ... propablilities only show how unfit you are to do statistics. ... statistical analysis. ... starting point to come to these specific sequences. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Statistical Pattern Recognition
    ... the recent brain research is the *evidence* that shows brains perform ... statistical analysis during pattern recognition? ... that it is an *associative memory* process, not statistical analysis. ... I've already provided several references dealing with the statistics ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Richard says Rupert Morrish is wrong
    ... More bullshit, Sean. ... We all know statistical analysis require a full set of data, ... not an excuse for making generalisations and guesswork. ... Sean, if you want to do statistics, you need numbers. ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: Democrats try to hide anti-global warming report
    ... economics, taught economics, and published in economics journals. ... also done graduate work in statistics and taught statistics. ... models and statistical analysis to support their conclusions. ... Actually, I'm more of a fan of science -- observation, theory, testing, ...
    (rec.gambling.poker)