Re: Origin of female

r norman <r_s_norman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:26:14 -0600, Ferrous Patella
<FerrousPatella@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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I think females are like atheists. The concept would not exist if it
weren't for males/theists. Life was happily reproducing before genders
came along. Even sexual recombination was possible without sexual
dimorphism (see earthworms). So I see the whole baby-carrying state as
being the default mode (again like atheism) until someone comes up
with this bizarre divisive concept to mess with our heads.

Sorry about the blank post ---

You are sort of wrong about earthworms. They are fully sexual, with
male and female sex organs and produce fully functional sperm and
eggs. It is just that they, like very many other organisms,
especially plants, have single individuals that carry both male and
female parts. Some the individual is not sexually dimorphic, but the
organs or distinctly sexual in morph.

I thought this was what I was getting at. Admittedly, I did not provide a
lot a detail.

Still, they have aspects that
are distinctly male and other aspects that are distinctly female.

There are, indeed, eukaryotes like Chlamydia who go through full
sexual reproduction: fertilization (or, more technically, syngamy) and
meiosis, with no morphological distinction at all between different
sexes (although there is a biochemical-molecular biological
distinction between mating groups).

Also, are there not some species that go through stages of being one
gender then the other in one individual's life?


But more fundamentally, as you indeed suggest, the real question is
not the origin of 'female' but rather the origin of 'male'.

"Males [and theists]...can't live with 'em... can't shoot 'em."

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