Re: Manufacture vs. Artifact?

On Dec 5, 2:29 pm, noctiluca <robertlc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:31 am, Glenn <GlennShel...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





On Dec 5, 11:17 am, noctiluca <robertlc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Dec 5, 9:47 am, Glenn <GlennShel...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Dec 5, 10:02 am, noctiluca <robertlc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Dec 5, 7:59 am, Seanpit <seanpitnos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Dec 4, 6:24 am, richardalanforr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

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If he sees a highly symmetrical polished granite cube,
even if he were on an alien planet like Mars, he would quickly assume
the activity of deliberate artifact - as would I and anyone else with
half a brain and some experience with the material of granite.

I would not however conclude that it was an artifact until I had
thoroughly investigated the cube and tested hypotheses of manufacture.

You already know that a highly symmetrical polished granite cube can
be manufactured by a number of different methods. What then would you
"test" in this regard? You already know the answer. Manufacture by
at least human-level intelligence using a large variety of possible
methods is already known to have the potential to produce such a
cube. There simply is no need to "investigate" this possibility
further. That investigation is therefore pointless.

By which logic we would all still believe that pulsars represent
signals of intelligent alien origin.

We don't all believe the same things always.

True enough, though I fail to see its relevance to my point.

Your point could be seen as a claim that everyone at one time believed
aliens were responsible for pulsars.

Only by people who didn't understand the point, which, I suppose,
would explain the irrelevance of your answer.

Strawmen aren't points, dude.

Sean's logic, if employed in the case of pulsars, would have left us
in the position of having pursued the issue no further, ergo: bereft
of a scientific explanation and in possession of nothing more than a
sloppy inference to design.

Plain and simple bull***. Pulsars were never and are not known to be
designed. Radio signals and polished granite cubes are. You aren't so
stupid as to be ignorant of his argument here. I can only attribute
your responses here to be deliberate deception.

My point wasn't about how many people
believed in the alien explanation (and doubtless even without a
scientific answer many people would have continued to skeptical of
intelligent agency), my point was about the methodology.

You know you didn't have a point, and that your pulsar analogy was a
square peg in a round hole.

I refuted that, and you don't see
the relevance??

I tried, but wasn't up to the task.

On that I have to agree.

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