Re: Origins and Mental Activity

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:28:40 -0600, josephus <dogbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Zoe wrote:
I would like to work with the current understanding of the Big Bang
activity before continuing to chew on the laws of intelligence.

Taking it for granted that there is no certain answer as to how the
elements formed after the big bang -- except maybe helium and hydrogen
-- but that they most assuredly made their appearance eventually
(maybe from supernovas), I would like to work from that point on.

Okay, so here we have some basic elements distributed randomly
throughout the universe, and in great quantity. Space would look
something like this, multiplied many many times over, I guess?

N H C C He N O
O C O Li
H N C O
O N Li H He
C C He
H N C O C N
He
O O O H N He C H

N C H N N H O Li O


Is this a correct understanding so far as to the possible state of the
universe sometime after the Big Bang and before the formation of
anything more unified than the separate elements?

If it is agreed that this was once the physical state of the universe
at some point after the Big Bang, I would like to see which theory
will get the furthest in tracking the formation of matter, organic and
inorganic, using the laws of physics and chemistry versus the laws of
intelligence.

Any takers?

actually a plasma is made of charged matter that is the forth state of
matter. not elements per se. the big bang started out as quarks and
those are the building blocks of matter. when the fire ball cooled
enough then ions precipitated. then as the temperature fell varous
quarks formed antimater and matter in various proportions. the creation
and destruction of these varous things contributed to the plasma.
eventually it cooled enough the hidrogen and helieum were precipitated.
after the universe became transparent for radiation. the vaious
clouds of H and He formed the first stars. the only two elements to
start with were H and He and a smattering of Li. the stars produced
the remainder not the big bang.

only after the stars produced the other elements would we se the list
of emements you list.

thank you for the pre-history, Josephus, but I am starting at a point
after the elements formed. Can we work from there?

.

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