Re: How to Believe in God

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:53:57 -0000,
J.LyonLayden <JosephLayden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This made me think of how I could find a way NOT to believe in God.

I looked at an M.C. Escher print for a long time trying to convince
myself that it could be made into 3-D.

I figured if I could do this I could convince myself that it's
possible for Time and the Universe to exist without a beginning.
Perhaps it would help me understand how Einstein's theories could be
overturned, thus disqualifying a need for an Unmoved Mover.

That didn't work so I tried to convince myself that people who think
that quantum physics enables M.C. Escher prints to work in real life
were smarter than me. Alas, I understood everything they tried to
explain and found that they could not build an M.C. Escher print in
the 3-D world either. They were simply pretending to understand how
Time can exist without a beginning, and hoping that it were possible
for there to be Time without a beginning, because they don't want to
believe in gods.

I found that they have more blind faith than any fundamentalist
Christian I know; blind faith in an absurdity that belies common
sense, namely that spontaneous generation in a void is possible while
the laws that dictate that reaction requires action are non-
withstanding.

Perhaps you should stop trying to explain how others view the universe,
because you come up with pretty nonsensical tripe.

You ask most physicists (I'd dare say almost all of them) and they'd
probably tell you that they are under no illusion that Time is a concept
which can be separated as you have tried to claim they do. There are some
ideas about a before the before sort of thing, but our current understanding
of the universe suggests that the very question "what went on before the
beginning" is meaningless, like asking what is north of the North Pole.

Oh, and ditch the silly anti-atheist nonsense. It truly is irrelevant to an
issue of the Big Bang.

--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@xxxxxxxxx

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