Re: Re: Dark matter

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:26:57 -0700, spintronic
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On 24 Sep, 10:44, josephus <dogb...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
spintronic wrote:
On 24 Sep, 00:22, Bob Casanova <nos...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

DM interacts gravitationally, you could infer DM's existence
in deep space by G-lensing!

"You do understand this, right"?

and how will your lensing work if there is no MASS to create an
Einstein Ring. That is "G-lensing"

The "MASS", as you say would be isolated DM!

Isolated DM would not have the mass to do that you idiot.

The definitions of a VOID in space
is the fact that there is not detectable MATTER (radiating) in the VOID

No the definition of a "Void" in cosmology is the absence of galaxies,
creating a cold spot in the CMBR!

No it is not. The CMBR has no voids, it comes from a time long before
voids could have formed. I see we can add CMBR as yet another
scientific concept you are ignorant of.

The CMBR is a remnant of the point where photons first had free
movement, a point often called "First Light" which happened between
350,000 and 400,000 years after the big bang. Just before that the
whole universe was a plasma, there could have been no voids, though
there was certainly density fluctuations and those gave rise the
ripples in the CMBR we see.


and you are an EXPERT on DM and its effects. You claim DM is a
particle and radiates.

No, I said "every particle radiates"! I also said, "DM is not a
particle"!

How do you know?

I also said "If it were a particle" it would radiate! Are you getting
this?

No. Until you can show exactly what DM is you cannot make any such
claims without looking like a fool. Ok, no change there.


No it is DM because it DOES NOT RADIATE IN ANY FREQUENCY from LONG
WAVE to microwave.

That should be from Gamma waves to ELF waves, &
It does not radiate because it is not any particle!

Prove it.



It does interact gravitationally however.
There are only 2 things that can do that.

Energy & Mass.

So according to Einsteins field equations you can assign a
"stress-energy tensor" to it, and watch it curve space!

Or in reality, look for the curvature of space in the void, and
work backwards!

If there is DM then it is NOT a void.

Only it has never been observed!

To use your own words;
"You don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about"!

Isolated DM could quite easily be detected *without* infering its
effects
on normal matter!

No it cannot. YOU NEED MATTER.

NO YOU DON'T! STOP SHOUTING!

Stop making a fool of yourself, if that is really possible.

beside only spintropic thinks DM has
clumps.

Hmmm! Interacts gravitationally!

So?

Doesn't that have something to do with, oh whats it called???
Its on the tip of my tongue! Oh ya thats it.

Gravity is an "attractive" force! Things "clump" together because of
gravity! Hmmmm.

But there is no evidence DM reacts with DM - unless you have cites to
the contrary.

Are you saying a galaxy is not a clump?? That's new!

A galaxy is a group of stars that are gravitationally linked.


Dark Matter is a puzzle. we found stars that have the WRONG rotation
drop off. We found GALAXY GROUPS that are moving to fast and DO NOT
ESCAPE. WE hypothesis DM is in effect. This is the only way we know
about it.

Whats this "we" I don't see "josephus" on any papers published in
cosmology!

I've never seen Spincronic listed in any list of people understanding
science.



questions:
is DM a global attribute? or is is specially associated with specific
galaxies.


It is "specifically" associated with "mass" of a given shape!
Galaxies!

Prove it.


In most large galaxies there seem to be Black Holes. the size of a
galaxy is defined by the black hole.

You are stupid!

There are very few people as stupid as you.

You use words like "there seems" and "defined by" to refer to the same
object!
How can you "define" something by something that "seems" to be there?

You are funny!

And you are not - you are just stupid.

SO we have BH , DM and a large
Galaxy. What is the connection?

They all have the same zip code?

Do they?




since NOBODY knows, why would clever ARROGANT spintropic know.


For somebody who is convinced that "NOBODY knows", you are pretty
sure that you know what you are talkning about!

You are funny! I'v just pissed myself. 1 sec!

Not unusual, metal case like you often have poor body control.


Unfortunately for you, however; NO isolated DM has been detected!

you're right No isolated DM has been detected. ( we only see bright
galaxies doing strange things.)

You only see what your "blinkers" permit!

Do you have any evidence he is wrong?

--
Bob.

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