Re: The Bible is Scientific

The Bible also contains:
- Cosmology incompatible with reality
- Senseless biology
- Mythical creatures
- Explict and conrete extra-deity references
- Same mystical elements as other accepted mythologies
- Internally inconsistant accounts
- Unjust and unreasonable laws
- Zenophobic ordinances
- Ridiculous atrocities
- Silly and contrived etiological explanations
- Internal/external confilcting histories
- Flat out untrue claims

How exactly do you seperate out what is allegory or metaphorical from what
is genuine? What criteria determines what accounts are dismissed and what
accounts are authoratative? Exactly at what point did some priest re-read
Gen 1 and think, "Hey, hang on. If you hold it like this, squint, and read
it this way, it does agree with Copernicus after all. Guess we've been
reading it wrong." Suddenly, the three-tiered, flat-earth, geocentric
perspective taken as literal fact for 2000 years of Biblical history became
metaphor. (Read the indictement against Galileo and note the assuredness of
its authority.)

Also if you think the King James, a liturgical translation into what is now
a dead language, is in any way an authentic and trustworthy rendition of
either the Hebrew or Greek transmissions you are in serious need of some
religious education. In the New Testament alone there are litterally
thousands of discrepencies, alterations, deletions, and additions identified
though examining multiple recovered copies of the same texts. Many Old
Testament portions made no sense until the discovery of the tables at Ugarit
which shed light on the language and context and examined in the perspective
of the mythologies of surrounding cultures. The late bonze/early iron
Israelites were a mixed group of western semites who's Yahwistic priests
co-opted Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and Canaanite stories and integrated them
with their on spin and frequently inverting their original meaning. It
really is that simple. They should be taken no more seriously than tales
from Hersiod, the Vedas, Upanishads, the Fengshen Yanyi, Kojinki, or the
Book of the Dead. Collecting and recording oral stories was a phenomenon
that occurred across the planet among literate societies.

Yes I understand the nature of your post and would actually give you a bit
of credit for the step back from a completely fundamentalist perspectve you
appear to have taken. There is of course nothing wrong with personal
religious beliefs that affirm ones own spiritual nature. However, there is
something absolutely ridiculous about individuals taking seriously
metaphorical symbolisim as reality. (Though not to completely rule out
Oriental traditions there are certianly those who believe Krishna literally
walked on water as well.) God given or otherwise, we have minds capable of
rational thought and it is certainly a waste not to use it. Despite what is
taught in sunday school, religious ideas are symbolic, they are not meant to
be taken literally. The authors knew that, the audiences knew that, yet
repeatedly, one generation's myth became the next generation's history. A
phenomenon that has plagued western culture since Alexander.


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The Bible is Scientific

In the beginning of the earth, God talked
to a couple who were commanded to
perform agricultural tasks, not create
a computer system, nor obtain a Ph.D.
Nevertheless, God states He did create
the heaven and the earth. The history
of the Bible indicates one of agriculture
and animal husbandry; to which God did
communicate, intelligently, within the
framework of the skills and living
circumstances of the people involved.
Understanding the Bible, within the
context of communication, includes
People, Places, Plants and Animals.
http://bible.ort.org/books/glosd1.asp?ACTION=displayletter&char=65&cat=4

We now have scientific communities,
such as talk.origins, with intelligent
individuals, who should review the facts,
within the framework of eternal realities.
Science should be taught in all schools,
nationwide, which cannot be done, without
reliance upon Biblical narrative.

Example: Using the King James version
of The Holy Bible, Genesis records that
God said: Let there be light; and there
was light . . . And God called the light Day
and the darkness he called Night . . . And
the evening and the morning were the first
day. Nevertheless, in order of days, it is
so stated that: Let there be lights in the
firmament of the heaven to divide the day
from the night . . . And the evening and the
morning were the fourth day.

From modern scientific knowledge, it is
apparent, that in current intelligent language
of the scientific world, what is said by God
is equivalent to the process by which, on
the fourth day, the regional solar system
was set in motion, to move about the
Sun in the sky, along with the other
bodies in the heavens, within the backdrop
of the more distant star systems.

Going back in days (1,000 earth years),
on the third day, the earth land mass was
formed, along with the seas, and plants.
It is obvious to all sober thinking individuals,
that this creation must have occurred in
this sequence, to then allow the greater
manifestation of light and darkness on
the fourth day. This brings to issue the
initial formation of the earth and planetary
system, within a stationary, non motion
environment.

Prior to these events, within the second
day of creation, God made the firmament,
and divided the waters which were under the
firmament from the waters which were above
the firmament. This creative act is now well
defined as the gravitational field created by
the mass of the earth as an independent entity.

Prior to this series of events, the earth was
without form and void; and darkness was upon
the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved
upon the face of the waters. This clearly suggests
that the earth was formed out of a portion of
the Universe, of unorganized gaseous matter
and fluid element, which was permeated by
light from God, condensed into a liquid gravitation
field, and further defined with more rigid land mass,
which was then set into rotational spin.

Nature has it, and astronomy shows it, that such
is currently the composition within the various star
systems seen throughout the Universe. All scientific.

The fifth day shows the waters bringing forth abundantly,
as well as the fowl that may fly above the earth. This
is most scientific and interesting, as it would absolutely
require the previously noted plant life, to sustain the
subsequent proliferation of fish in the sea, and birds
in the air. Sounds like scientific, intelligent creation,
as told by the Creator. This is a cryptic explanation,
as it is self evident that plant life was both beneath
the seas, on the ocean floors, as well as upon the
exposed earth.

There is a distinct separation in the creation of the
living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping
thing, and beast of the earth after his kind. There
is no room for the theory of evolution.

There is a distinct separation in the creation of man
in his own image, in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them, with worldwide
dominion over all the other creations. There is no
room for the theory of evolution. Significantly,
this was a Master Plan, an Executive Process
in modern Business language, since all this
was created and contemplated upon, every plant
of the field before it was in the earth, and every
herb of the field before it grew; meaning in the most
simple terms, that God prepared the earth, with all
living things to event upon the earth, in time
sequence, from Adam and Eve, until the very
end of this planet as a temporal sphere.

Note again, the scientific facts concerning the
statement, and there was not a man to till the
ground. But there went up a mist from the earth,
and watered the whole ground; then, Man was
created FIRST in the physical creation, placing
the most intelligent creature above all else. Just
sounds like what an intelligent scientist would do
today, in assigning the brightest and the best,
to conduct a new University research project.
And the Lord God planted a garden eastward
in Eden, a "research grant", with extensive laboratory,
an experimental chamber for all the children of Man.

The Bible testifies that God is the greatest Scientist:
all knowing, all seeing, eternal, unchanged, everlasting.

Respectfully yours,

Tom Tinney, Sr.
Who's Who in America,
Millennium Edition [54th] through 2004
Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions]
Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/


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