Re: Religion Good For Evolution?

Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
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Ok, then I disagree with the premise. Most people do NOT think that
altruism generally increases fitness and is generally favored by
natural selection.

Can you give examples of that?

Examples of "people who do not think ..."? Just about everyone who
has
worked on the ideas of kin selection and reciprocal altruism and group
selection as partial explanations for the existence of altruism in
nature.

A couple of cites shouldn't be hard to give then.


Or do you want examples of cases in which altruism does not increase
fitness? You yourself cited the observation that there are people who
literally give their lives to various 'altruistic' causes instead of
staying home and raising the kiddies 'as Nature intended'.

There's a significant difference between giving observational examples and
claiming that "Most people do NOT think.."




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Relevant Pages

  • Re: Applying TDF (was understanding y)
    ... >> Gene centricity within inclusive fitness. ... > mating, rather than sexual selection. ... genetics refer to it as "assortive mating". ... or in a diploid model with the altruism genes recessive. ...
    (sci.bio.evolution)
  • Re: Hollowness of Hamiltons Rule
    ... > carries the gene for altruism, ... > to its fitness, which means that it will pass on fewer copies of the ... selection event has ever been documented ...
    (sci.bio.evolution)
  • Re: Perpetually Perplexed
    ... Hamilton's incomplete fitness total rb it ... Once again no Darwinian altruism ... gene level of selection within the bodies ...
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  • Re: Dawkins Doesnt Mention Virus
    ... where Total Darwinian Fitness ... (a refutable maximand of nature) ... alone allows the concept of altruism ... minimum and not just 2 reproductions. ...
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  • RE: Fw: Edward O. Wilsons "bombshell" on the reality of group
    ... selection -- and the same seems to hold true for humans. ... inclusive fitness concept has always been organism group centric (group ... revolutionary poly-centric argument for the evolution of "altruism" ... argument is argued to be gene centric. ...
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