Re: Darwin misquoted on Wikipedia Natural Selection



On Sep 13, 7:29 pm, UC <uraniumcommit...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How does
this explain where the control algorithms comes from? What is your
mechanism - the nature selection force that naturaled all this first
common ancestor into existence.

The origin of life is at present not completely understood. It
occurred once, somewhere on earth, a long time ago, and all traces of
that origin were long ago obliterated. The conditions on earth at the
time life originated were utterly unlike what they are today, and in
fact the exact nature of those conditions is not perfectly understood.
Of course, strictly speaking, the theory of evolution does not deal
with the origin of life, only with "descent with modification". The
study of origin of life itself is a different discipline altogether.

Asking evolution to explain the origin of life...
There is no person by the name of "evolution". I am not asking some
abstract undefined 'evolution' concept but a human being to explain me
the origin of life. If you as a human can't even begin to explain
where life came from then how do you know that the common descent
hypothesis explains anything. The mechanism that is responsible for
life would logically be responsible for the common descent of life as
well. Lets say this common ancestor that we all finally agree was
chimp that showed it's willy for all the monkey babes
transmutated(Darwin's words) or morphed or whatever into a human. In
what way would this prove or disprove the existence of God, since we
don't know what was the mechanism? The mechanism is the issue and as
Berlinski said:"...Natural selection as some sort of universal
mechanism is just as implausible as a universal differential equation
explaining all of physics..."

If you wish to see how destructive this phrase "natural selection" is
in a peer reviewed article in biology replace it with "Ninja turtles"
and evolution with "Astec Cosmology". And then try and see if you are
still able to grasp the mechanistic description of what the author was
trying to describe before he started "naturaling" all over the
article.


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