Re: Big Bang & Atheism

Ray Martinez wrote:

On Aug 22, 12:04 pm, geop...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On 22 Aug, 19:37, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:






On Aug 22, 11:08 am, geop...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On 22 Aug, 18:33, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 21, 5:56 pm, John Harshman <jharshman.diespam...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Lately, the fun-filled expanding earth threads have turned to the Ph.D.
thesis of one James Maxlow, who actually did manage to get a degree out
of earth expansion. I know of a couple of other cases in which people
have received graduate degrees from real universities, in real science
departments, with works of sheer lunacy.

(I'm not talking here about those whose degrees have nothing to do with
their crackpottery, e.g. Jonathan Wells -- that's another subject.)

Whee! Ray's back! I needed a laugh. :)

You are the epitome of a Fundamentalist-Atheist who sleeps, eats,
walks, shits and adores everything that is evolution

Evidence please. ^_^ Or Raylogic, since that you can actually provide
and it's funny.

, and as I have

said in the past, your degree, based on what comes out of your trap,
proves only that you can pass classes.

Links to examples of you showing this, please. ^_^ How comes you won't
answer my question about the big bang? I've asked it like four times
now, and you originally demanded it.

DO Atheists support the big bang?

Yup. All the evidence shows that it happened.




If so, they do not believe the banger was God just like biological
First Cause is not from God - right?

They have no reason to. but that isn't my point. My point is atheists
accepted the theory, even though they could have covered it up as you
claim happens with evolution,


I claim no cover-up with evolution.

yjou have claimed everything else. why not?


and carried on pretending that the
universe had no need to be created. I offer this as evidence that
atheists are motivated by the truth as opposed to a mere intent to
deny God, and wonder why you won't accept the same about evolution.



Atheists, of course, are motivated to validate their worldview, which
occurs everytime the Bible is perceived to be wrong. Since Einstein
(an Atheist) became a big bang convert the moment he saw evidence of
an expanding universe on Mt. Wilson, the big bang is hard to deny. The
issue is what is the best interpretation of the big bang?

a pantheisit is not a athiest. a pantheisis does not think there is a god but a metaphoic nature diety. that is not an atheist.

Since the Bible says God spoke the universe into existence out of
nothingness, the scientific evidence corresponds to the Textual
evidence.
where does the bible talk about expanding universe and BIG BANG?

Atheists SHOULD (if they are objective) say "score one for
the Bible."
science has NO POSITION ON GOD. and Theist, Roman Catholics, Baptists, Prebyterians and muslims, and Zen Budests, and othfers all pactice Bioloigal Science and knows WHY EVOLUTION is TRUE. science generally does not care WHERE the scientist go to church.

You are basicly trying to LIE BY EXCEPTION.

But since, like I said, they exist to validate their
worldview, this need will not allow them to be objective when the
Bible is involved. Instead they ignore the Biblical correspondence.

RAY that is calling the Kettle Black and I repeat, science has NO OPINION on GOD.
Ray



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