Re: Steven J's failure to recognize what Darwin hath wrought


"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Aug 7, 2:53 pm, Shane <remar...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:00:12 -0700, Ray Martinez wrote:
On Aug 6, 2:57 pm, Shane <remarcsdNOS...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:34:08 -0700, Ray Martinez wrote:
On Aug 5, 4:12 pm, Shane <remarcsdNOS...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:06:22 -0700, Ray Martinez wrote:
On Aug 4, 8:15 pm, Richard Clayton <pockZIGetnZIG...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:
On Aug 3, 2:07 am, w...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:10:05 GMT, T Pagano
<not.va...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Darwinism (that is, natural selection) is morally neutral to
all
behavior and will continue to engender the heinous murderous
atheist
acts which we have witnessed since it was offered in 1859.
Acts which
eclipse every bad act committed in purely religious terms in
all of
human history.
Regards,
T Pagano
-- Steven J.
when one reads the murderous, genocidal, slave bearing history
of the
christian religion, it's a wonder creationists have the
temerity to
accuse others of what they, themselves have been guilty of for
a
thousand years.

We do not deny these atrocities. The point here is that
post-Darwin
Atheism, that is educated 20th century Atheists armed with the
scientific "facts" and ramifications of Darwinism, instantly
proceeded
to commit genocide on a scale never seen in calendar history.
Not
counting the Holocaust, Atheist regimes in the 20th century
murdered
at least 100,000,000 million persons.

Atheist regimes murdered over 100 trillion people? (That
would be
100,000,000 million, or 100,000,000,000,000, or 1x10^14.) That
would be
a good trick, given that the world population is somewhere around
seven
billion-- less than a ten-thousandth of the "100,000,000 million"
you cited.

Tell me, Ray, is your understanding of mathematics as
good as your
understanding of biology?
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I said one hundred million.

Another Ray terminological inexactitude that is so easily checked
it
is amazing that he didn't apologise for a simple mistake and move
on.
Here is the direct quote.

"Atheist regimes in the 20th century murdered at least 100,000,000
million persons."

Apparently Ray didn't even bother to check his post, but just
assumed
that his opponents were dishonest.

I subsequently said 100 million and corrected the typo. Why have you
failed to recognize? Is it because you are a Darwinist and an
Atheist?

Another Ray lie. You didn't correct anything, your merely insisted
that your first error was correct.

Here are the two quotes by you;
"Atheist regimes in the 20th century murdered at least 100,000,000
million persons."

"I said one hundred million."

See Ray it works like this, if you were correcting the earlier
statement, then your second one would have said something along the
lines, of I *meant* 100 million, but you could not even admit to such
a minor error, so you insisted that your initial statment said
something it obviously does not.

As to why I have failed to recognise your correction, the reason is
simple, you didn't make one, you merely insisted that your original
statement was correct, when it obviously is not.

This is a conservative figure to say the
least. Russian and East Bloc and Chinese and Southeast Asian and
Cuban
and Korean Atheist-communist regimes, with Darwinism as their
theory,
murdered in cold blood, probably 250 million persons during the
20th
century. The American news media, who are of course Darwinists
themselves and ultra-liberals, refused to report Atheist-communist
atrocities to the degree that the numbers represent because they
wanted peace at any cost with these nations.

This is what happened when Atheists, after becoming empowered with
Darwin's "facts," that is, alleged evidence of God's non-existence
confirming Atheist faith, acquired power. They instantly surpassed
and
out-did any Church caused atrocity in previous history. This is
why
Atheists cannot be trusted with power.

Look what Darwin hath wrought:

Congratulations Atheists: in ten decades of time you murdered more
persons than were previously murdered in all of calendar history.

Perhaps Ray can answer this question, because no other creationist
I've come across has had the courage to answer;

With respect to large scale deaths and genocide, is it worse to
kill a
large number but a small percentage, or a large percentage of a
small
number.

For example, is Mao, the overseer of the killing of (I'm guessing
here) 100 million--approx 10%--of the chinese people, worse than
those
that killed 100% of the Tasmanian aboriginals?

And if so why?

And if not, what is the significance of pointing out how bad Mao et
al
were, when the theistic inspired genocides of history have
eliminated
entire tribes and races of people?

I see that you are a typical cowardly creationist and choose to run
away rather than confront this issue.
Your attempt to act like, and brand a grain of sand (corrected
mistake)

Another Ray lie, the mistake was not corrected as demonstrated above,
you merely insisted that your original statement was correct.


Evading 100 million murders by Atheists in the 20th century via a
silly misrepresentation.


to be a mountain (lie) while ignoring the fact that 100
million persons were murdered by Atheists in the 20th century, can
only be explained by your Atheism.

Another Ray lie, I did not ignore that statement because you never made
that statement. You stated that the deathtoll was 1,000,000 million,
which is so obviously ludicrous that it should be ignored.

I am quite relieved that your kind needs to slander me as a liar;

As I never spoke it would not be slander but libel, however calling a
person a liar by actually demonstrating his lies is not libel, it is
truth, which is the one sure way to refute an accusation of libel.


Since you are an Atheist and I am a Christian I am not the least bit
concerned with you calling me a liar. Anyone can scroll back and see
how you have completely blown out of proportion an honest typo that
was corrected in the next post.


logically, based on the ugly facts of Atheist inflicted genocide, it
means I have spoken the truth. Your slander is equivalent to murder in
this situation since you cannot carry out the latter in this case.

I didn't slander you as my communication was written, so libel is your
only valid accusationeven if what you suggest is the truth, which it
obviously, and demonstrably, is not.. So as I am not guilty of the first
part of your accusation, I cannot be guilty of the second. It seems
however that as you have incorrectly accused me of slander and have
comprehensively failed to make your case, it seems that in your heart
you are the murderer.

In addition, since you are also a Darwinist

Nope, I do not worship Darwin, nor his theory, and more than you worship
Newton because you accept his explanation of gravity.


All Atheists worship Darwin.

It is not a matter of opinion. Literature is bursting at the seems
with books praising the man who refuted the existence of God. Denying
only shows the public and confirms that Atheists are brazen liars or
extremely deluded.

I worship a Man who walked the Earth at one time; I suggest that you
admit the obvious and face yourself.


All evidence - and common sense tells us that that man never walked the
Earth, it is just the latest version of an ancient myth.


we know that you practice
the Marxist rationale that the ends (evolution veracity) justifies the
means (lying).

As it is you who is the demonstrable liar in this thread and others,
then it seems that you are the one that believes that lying for jesus is
ok. However you even fall short of that less than lofty ideal, as you
merely lie to protect Ray Martinez. What is really sad is that you feel
the need to lie over such a trivial mistake, that, as another poster
pointed out, has been made by at least one other in the newsgroup.


Glenn pointed out the typo (up-thread). Why have you not acted like
him?

Ray







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