Re: For Pagano, or Whomever It May Concern




"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Aug 2, 5:21 pm, Glenn <GlennShel...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 2, 2:14 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Aug 1, 7:23 pm, "Steven J." <steve...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have put a name in the subject header, *and* started a new thread,
and Tony hasn't even posted for a couple of days and may not see
this,
but I have trouble getting his attention anyway, so please excuse
me.

In his July 24 post, "Stalin's Communist regime was atheistic,
materialistic, and darwinian at its core," T. Pagano made the
following two _argumenta ad consequentia_ against evolutionary
theory:

first, that Marxism was (in the words of Plekhanov) "Darwinism in
its
application to social science," and that "materialistic doctrines
like
darwinism ... guided them in formulating their murderous actions,"

and, second, "the darwinian, materialistic, and atheistic worldview
of Stalin and his regime offerd NO limits to behavior."

Please note that these two arguments contradict one another.

There is no contradiction.

Simply put, no limits was guide to their actions.
When Steven reduces his rhetoric to be understandable, he shows
himself so lost as to be irrational.


Good point. I cannot fathom how Steven sees a contradiction in
Pagano's statements. The "contradiction" that he asserts to exist
makes no sense. As for Steven's rhetoric, this again, is a good point.
We know rhetoric is the misuse of logic and to say the least, I can
find no sound logic in Steven's OP.

As for Steven being lost and irrational, again a good point in lieu of
the fact that he is, afterall, an evolutionist. But I have noticed
that his posts in the last few months exhibit a genuine degenerating
psychosis. His posts have become long-winded and nonsensical prefaces
leading to obscure points. Straight thinking is entirely absent. He
reminds me (I kid you not) of a street lunatic who carries around his
notebooks that contain endless amounts of compacted incoherent
dialogue; but at the same time it is written with premeditated
sincerity.

I kinda feel bad for making these points since something is genuinely
wrong with Steven. I say this hoping he will, after publically
responding and acting like we are crazy, privately take it to heart
and get some help, preferably from God.


What you wrote is almost like an analysis of your own self.

Why do you write this sinister attack on another person?

You are yourself refusing to listen to sound advice about how you should
mend your ways before it is too late but you will not listen. Heal yourself
befor you begin healing others. See the beam in your own eye.

Ray


SNIP....




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