Re: For Pagano, or Whomever It May Concern
- From: Ray Martinez <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:53:36 -0700
On Aug 2, 5:21 pm, Glenn <GlennShel...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 2, 2:14 pm, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 1, 7:23 pm, "Steven J." <steve...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have put a name in the subject header, *and* started a new thread,
and Tony hasn't even posted for a couple of days and may not see this,
but I have trouble getting his attention anyway, so please excuse me.
In his July 24 post, "Stalin's Communist regime was atheistic,
materialistic, and darwinian at its core," T. Pagano made the
following two _argumenta ad consequentia_ against evolutionary theory:
first, that Marxism was (in the words of Plekhanov) "Darwinism in its
application to social science," and that "materialistic doctrines like
darwinism ... guided them in formulating their murderous actions,"
and, second, "the darwinian, materialistic, and atheistic worldview
of Stalin and his regime offerd NO limits to behavior."
Please note that these two arguments contradict one another.
There is no contradiction.
Simply put, no limits was guide to their actions.
When Steven reduces his rhetoric to be understandable, he shows
himself so lost as to be irrational.
Good point. I cannot fathom how Steven sees a contradiction in
Pagano's statements. The "contradiction" that he asserts to exist
makes no sense. As for Steven's rhetoric, this again, is a good point.
We know rhetoric is the misuse of logic and to say the least, I can
find no sound logic in Steven's OP.
As for Steven being lost and irrational, again a good point in lieu of
the fact that he is, afterall, an evolutionist. But I have noticed
that his posts in the last few months exhibit a genuine degenerating
psychosis. His posts have become long-winded and nonsensical prefaces
leading to obscure points. Straight thinking is entirely absent. He
reminds me (I kid you not) of a street lunatic who carries around his
notebooks that contain endless amounts of compacted incoherent
dialogue; but at the same time it is written with premeditated
sincerity.
I kinda feel bad for making these points since something is genuinely
wrong with Steven. I say this hoping he will, after publically
responding and acting like we are crazy, privately take it to heart
and get some help, preferably from God.
Ray
SNIP....
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