Re: Dawkins, your hero, flummoxed and abashed;)


"Nashton" <nana@xxxxx> wrote in message
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g&mode=related&search=

Too funny. I love how he tries to circumvent the question by referring to
"popular" misconceptions and yet, fails miserably when asked a simple
question.
Oh, and Mr. Dawkins, where is the physical evidence of fish, or whatever
those animals looked like (I presume they had the semblance of modern-day
fish to a certain degree) "coming out to the land?"

So refreshing to see your guru get stumped with a pivotal question on
evolution

Nashton, as someone who claims to be Christian, do you have no qualms
whatsoever about telling lies?

That video has been around for a while and has been exposed as deliberately
manipulated Creationist propaganda.

Dawkins has given several detailed accounts of what actually happened in
that video, here's a shortened version:

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?start=60&t=7400
<quote>
Perhaps I could clarify, once and for all, what actually happpened here.

1. An Australian woman called Gillian Brown, interviewing me in my own house
in Oxford, asked me a question which I immediately recognized as a
creationist plant.

2. I paused for a long time trying to decide whether to answer the question
or throw her out of my house.

3. I eventually asked her to stop the camera and tried to throw her out. We
moved into a different room, while she pleaded with me for about 20 minutes
not to throw her out. In the end, I foolishly relented and agreed to go back
into the filming room.

4. When the film eventually was released, I found that she had edited the
two parts together -- before and after the 20 minute break -- and made it
look as though my answer to a completely different question not shown on the
film (about modern species not being evolved from other modern species) was
an evasively irrelevant response to the original question (about information
content). I am astonished that people are fooled by this transparent piece
of fakery, given that there is an obvious cut. I also noticed that the
original question (about information content) which she herself had posed
off camera, was now posed by an Australian MAN, and he is seen ON camera,
presumably in Australia and in an obviously different room from the one in
which the interview took place. There is a THIRD version of the film, in
which the question is put by an American man, who then mimes foolish actions
to camera. It is not clear whether this third version is intended to be
taken as the 'real' one, or whether it is intended as a satire on
creationist tactics. The truth is that there is NO real version of the film.
All three are fakes, the American version only slightly more obviously faked
than the two Australian ones. "
</quote>

Now, I am far from being Dawkins No 1 fan outside of his scientific
writing - I actually consider him a total pillock when he writes about
religion - but I have no doubt whatsoever that he is telling the true
version of what happened in this instance.



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