Re: Chez Watt Re: Common ancestor between man and ape

On Jul 14, 2:36 pm, UC <uraniumcommit...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 14, 12:28 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:48:42 +0000, UC wrote:
On Jul 13, 12:46 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:03:29 +0000, UC wrote:
On Jul 12, 1:52 pm, Mark Isaak <eci...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:17:45 +0000, UC wrote:
The point is that we DON'T call ANCIENT Miacidae or
Viverravidae dogs or cats, because they are MORE PRIMITIVE than dogs
or cats, even if they are ancestral to them.

We still call them mammals.

But the point is we don't call them cats or dogs, do we?

The word "mammal" is conceptually no
different from "cat" or "dog," merely more inclusive.

Duh...THAT'S the bloody point! 'Bird' is like 'cat' or 'dog'.

No, it is not. "Bird" is like "mammal." "Eagle" or "vulture" are
like "cat" or "dog."

I said "most people" would not consider them so. I gave you a list,
and said that if I asked people to cross off the list the ones that
did not belong, they would keep
'bird', 'dog', and 'cat' while rejecting 'mammal'..

Irrelevant. "Bird" is much more like "mammal" than like "dog."

Not to most people. Ask them!

Who gives a *** about most people.

This isn't something minor that we vote on.


This is important.

I decide.

You shut up.

Will in New Haven

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witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll






Is it your goal to ensure that language never reflects real categories?

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