Re: In the News: Did Dinosaurs Live with Man?

In message <mccoy-1184114744.459944.37070@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, mccoy@xxxxxxxxxx writes
On Jul 10, 1:29 pm, Gary Bohn <garyb...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
m...@xxxxxxxxxx wrote innews:mccoy-1184094811.589329.306060@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

> On Jul 10, 11:48 am, stew dean <stewd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 10 Jul, 19:23, m...@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>> > Apparently some people still don't know that dinosaur soft tissue
>> > was recently found.

>> Link?

> Don't need a link. It's general knowledge. Naturally evolutionists
> aren't familar with knowledge that curtails their belief system.

Or your 'general knowledge' is incorrect, such as in this case.





>> > Other interesting things to note:

>> > Evolutionists were also mistaken at one time or another, in the
>> > past that:

>> > 1. Stalactites and stalagmites take millions of years to form. Not
>> > so. Such structures are also found under modern buildings. In the
>> > local fish hatchery museum, in my town, is a picture of bat that
>> > had gotten frozen into a stalactites. So much for evolution myths.

>> First up this is chemistry/rock formation not evolution and secondly
>> no one said all such formations take millions of years. Some take
>> tens of years - it depends on what is forming from what.

> Actually you can get field trips to caverns and the tour guide will
> spout thousands if not millions of years to wide-eyed youngsters.
> I've heard it myself.

As has been mentioned, the length of time it takes to form depends on
the formation, the material in the overlaying rocks, the water flow, the
acidity of the water, the air flow in the cavern, and a number of other
factors.

You seem to believe that because in one instance a process takes a
specific time that all similar processes take the same time. In the case
of caves, the guides will repeat what they are told which in turn is
based on a number of factors, including those I mentioned above. In
other words, what the guides repeat in any given location is correct for
that location and that location only. When, in the majority of cases, a
specific time frame is consistent it is used as a general statement.


Guides tell their people what their scientists and experts told them:

http://geology.wr.usgs.gov/parks/cave/index.html

"Caves are natural features and should be protected, but many have
been vandalized by careless visitors or damaged by poorly planned
commercial development. Some caves have been stripped of speleothems
which took thousands of years to form and in many places will not form
again. All should try to prevent this random destruction of these
natural wonderlands. Follow the footprints of others; look but don't
touch; bring away only photographs; leave no evidence of your visit."


JM

You do realise that this does not support your claim that "evolutionists" claim that stalactites and stalagmites take millions of years to form. Firstly it says "thousands", and secondly it says "some caves", leaving open the possibility that the rate of growth is different in other caves.

And to reiterate what I said earlier, before other techniques were available, the rates of growth of stalactites, stalagmites and other flowstones was obtained by observation of the change in size over time.
--
alias Ernest Major

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