# Re: introduce just ONE aleph-one infinity

*From*: "rupert.morrish@xxxxxxxxx" <rupert.morrish@xxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:37:08 -0000

On Jul 5, 7:40 am, Dale Kelly <THIS_IS_A_SPAMT...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

consider space

OK

what is on the other side of where space ends? nothing, more space

Then that's not where space ends, is it?

space is an infinite set of three infinite sets {x,y,z}

each set has a cardinality of aleph-one,

You can certainly use a three coordinate sets of aleph1 to map space,

but it hasn't been proved necessary. Below the Planck length, space

may well be discrete, rather than continuous.

the total set, aleph-three

Nope. aleph1 ^ 3 is aleph1. aleph3 is 2 ^ 2 ^ aleph1

but aleph-one is greater than aleph-zero, so it is uncountable

this means the set of all real things, is at least equal to aleph-three

(since {reality}={space,etc.})

if something is not countable it is indeterminate, indeterminate does not

necessarily mean random, it means it cannot be determined, an uncertainty

this means all we can conceive or perceive of reality is uncertainty

everything else is not conceived is perceived, it is just thought

no finite math like calculus and physics can address infinite sets

Nonsense. You just claimed that there are an uncountably infinite

number of points between my PC and yours, yet the bits seem to get

there anyway.

this means physics and biology and evolution, etc., are just thoughts

the mere study of these things is indeterminate, and just conjecture

quantum mechanics, by this consideration can only collapse into the same

uncertainty from which it came

You have mastered the comma. Perhaps you should now study the use of

the full stop before you advance to quantum mechanics. Seriously, what

you wrote makes no sense.

I am a realist, I believe there is a greater reality, but the only thing

we will ever know about it, is uncertainty, everything culpable thing we

think we know, is just a manifestation of ourselves, including the others

around us

All knowledge is provisional. This is not news. Only the fundies

dispute this.

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Dalehttp://www.vedantasite.org

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