Re: Comet parts Red Sea tradition

In article <1183037992.066359.158350@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Elijahovah <rschiller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The year 1514 BC is when it erupted Thera and Mount Sinai

I was not aware that comets deviating from their normal path were
required to cause volcanic eruptions. If you think Thera was the cause
of the Plagues,
I was not aware that Mount Sinai is a volcano.

your answer:
https://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane/2004-August/014440.html
ok i agree with you, Thera erupted, Sinai did not.
Arabia maybe, but not st.Catherine's monastery.

and 1513 BC it parted the Red Sea
REPLY: well all the fantastic land locations at AQABA
seem to fit so nice.
But the sea floor fits much better in Suez. A shoal a mile
wide could be exposed 50 feet down and 6 miles across and 6 miles
out, from the north end of Suez.
Combination of east wind caused by gravitational pull
including full moon,
(they debate Suez versus Aqaba,
Suez is 6 miles out and 50 feet deep shoal versus Aqaba which they
claim has deepened to ?500-1000 feet since).

You already claimed that. How
How? What would cause this?
From a comet? No way. Gravity doesn't focus like that.

First of all, i am not placing anyone's date of Thera
as the exodus, but rather the exodus of 1513 BC preceded
by the plagues caused in conjunction with Thera, not
by Thera. The orbit of the comet caused the eruption
of Thera and the plagues.

How?

The pillar of cloud is a comet
reaction,

A what?

look up stationary orbit and the figure-8 they
will make. Figure 8 is east 6 hours then west 6 hours
then east 6 hours and west 6 hours.

Thanks for the detailed web link.

The funnel cloud in Egypt passes thru egypt
from midnite and passes over killing first born Egyptians
who dared go outside in the night until noon. Hey how, i dont know.

Well, that's pretty stupid. How can you say a comet did it when you
don't have a clue about how?

It's recorded.

Something is recorded. Various hypotheses to explain it have been
proposed. All of the good ones explain exactly how things would have
happened.

Maybe ammonia out doors (?),

I don't think comets have that much ammonia, and they're certainly not
going to inject it into the atmosphere in a way that preferentially
kills Egyptian sons. And ammonia isn't going to part a lake.

maybe its also
a 1st born holiday outside, or a dare. That's not the topic.

Yes the hell it is!

The cloud heads out of Egypt at a rapid pace from 6am,
Moses followed it because how or why would anyone
come head-on to them with a funnel cloud in front of them
that they claim is God.

Oh, now you're ascribing supernatural powers to Moses. if Moses was a
witch, then why do you need a comet to do all kinds of fun things that
comets don't do?

It heads out of Egypt for 12 hours from
6am to 6pm. Then the sun goes down and under the full moon
this funnel cloud is glowing. The next day it makes a U-turn at noon
in the hour it heads to Egypt for 6 hours at a slower pace, but Moses
looked
like a fool when it made a U-turn and they follow it headed back west.
Then it made another U-turn (at 6pm) and goes to the Sea.
This is stupid the people think.

Yes. It's very stupid. A comet that high up isn't going to inject any
ammonia.

It's dark now and theyre on a beach
cornered between mountains and the sea because this thing went
down a Wadi valley corridor. When it came to the Red Sea
it lifted off ground. The surface started dropping and Moses perceived
he ought to say BEHOLD JEHOVAH PART THE SEA. His faith
was in predicting what he was actually already observing.
So then, they walk thru the see and this cloud settles back to the
ground
behind them getting a little pushy, dangerous.
but the corridor of dried sea bed a mile wide is clearly bright from
the full moon above, and the glow of the cloud behind.
Anyone lagging behind could clearly hear the chariots
behind them, but could also see it was dark behind them if they
didnt stay ahead. The cloud was half way thru the Red Sea at
midnite and at 6am they were headed out as the sun rose,
the cloud turned dark, and lifted off the ground as the sea rushed
back in. I have no doubt that perhaps the wind on the side walls
of sea had ammonia in it, combined with wind chill, etc.
Most scholars do not realize that the Bible never says these are
safe escapes.

You've concocted a marvelous fairy tale. Wandering comets that emit
ammonia clouds... You're just making *** up to see if it fits.

If the comet is the
funnel-cloud-pillar-shikinah-light seen at full moon equinoxes of
both spring and fall for 40 years until 1474 BC or April 1473 BC then
we should be able to trace it back to leaving orbit that year. If in
orbit over Sinai for 40 years then we have perfect way to trace back
moment of capture in 1514 BC unless we first find its date of
release.

You haven't established that a comet can do that. What's a "full moon
equinox" and when did they occur during that period? And what does the
moon being full have to do with it?

Know your written account before your big mouth opens.

Same to you, buddy. Comets don't enter earth orbits, split lakes, or
make ammonia tornadoes.

The shikinah light i sthe could of light that came down every spring
and every autumn. It is the same cloud they left Egypt out of
and followed to Mount Sinai. IT WAS FULL MOON.
Duh we are talking about a cloud all lit up by a full moon,
an effect of something in the cloud that moon light causes to glow.
READ MY TEXT, hey try reading 5 times, it will lessen your stupidity.
You deserve to be called stupid because you vehemently debate
instead of answer my request for Halley comet dates and locations.
OK ***, you dont know two equinoxes, sorry your stupidty not mine.
And you dont know Passover is full moon at equinox either.
More of your stupidity not mine. And youre also too stupid to know if
a full moon exists close to spring equinox, there is also full moon
close to autumn euqinox, more stupidity of yours. I would suggest
your stupidity is caused by puff-up brains we call arrogance.

Well, "close to" means 5 days off. Thirteen lunar months is ~358 days,
so each year it's off by another week.

A geostationary orbit can't appear to be stationary over Sinai. Such an
orbit has to be parallel to the ecliptic (do you know what that means?),
and that would not be overhead anywhere except at specific latitudes (do
you know which ones?).

That's not true. It can be parallel ove rthe equator. Ecliptic would
be
a figure 8 from north to south and speed vary from east to west.

No, the ecliptic is coplanar to the equator.

But over the equator it would only haved east west speed vary
not any latitude change.

And it would not have been directly overhead either.

So why in this instance are you making the comet follow strict orbital
rules, but you conveniently ignore all that when you talk about the
comet leaving its orbit to enter a very precise geostationary Earth
orbit?

And if the comet has an orbit with just the right inclination and
eccentiricity to blow ammonia at Egyptian first-borns and open a lake
one time, when why didn't it continue doing that every year for the next
forty years?

I'm not doing your homework for you. Like I said, you need to learn
about orbital mechanics. Then you can go and calculate the required
delta-V for a comet to achieve these peculiar maneuvers.

Moses didnt ask Egyptians to do home work for him either.
Death was perfectly their choice. Fools always laugh before they die.
It says so when Lot left Sodom, they laughed saying who are you
to predict this.

That makes no sense. You present a hypothesis in a scientific forum, and
when you're asked to defend it, you make mysterious biblical threats.

4. looks like what you think a comet looks like, even though when in
Earth orbit it would look like something else entirely...
REPLY: the cloud was an effect at both equinoxes, and they would
move when it moved.
What does that mean?
Means what it says.

This could mean they wake up to see its autumn
reappearance is 20 miles over this way or that way.
They? Who? The equinoxes?
They duh Jews. ITs appearance (the cloud) duh.
Look when men read to critique and hate witrh arrogance,
then they cant follow. I have no trouble talking to immigrants
whom i dont even know their language, yet we very easilty
develop and create a communication. Thats because it has
nothing to do with school or taking a class on language or
the right words to uyse. It has to do with people who wish
to listen to each other both ways and not be such piss
heads in arrogance. Now see if you can try communicating
with a language you dont know and have the same success
that i do. TRY IT. or drop dead as useless.

Quit being such an *** and write in clear, unambiguous English.

Moving to its
location doesnt mean THE CLOUD stayed put until THE JEWS
chose to move, or that
THE CLOUD didnt move while invisible and then reappeared in a location
THE JEWS
would have to move the tabernacle to. It is quite clear though that
this thing (THE CLOUD) did touch ground and they would go move the
tabernacle to
build it under it.
PRONOUNS REMOVED AND CAPS PUT IN FOR THE ARROGANT WHO
CANT FOLLOW BECAUSE OIF THEIR HAUGHTY ATITUDE WHILE READING

See, now, it wasn't so hard to disambiguate the pronouns.

You haven't answered a single question I've put to you. All you do is
come up with silly what-ifs and maybes, and try to change the subject
and answer some other question. I think you were hoping no one would
notice your tactics, but I did, and I kept asking the same unanswered
questions. To which you responded with tirades of insults about my
intelligence ... but no answers. So you're a loony, a kook, and an
***.

And your hypothesis about the moon whizzing about and then whizzing
about has no basis in scientific fact. It's all a six-year-old's made up
magical fairytale.

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