Re: Genome
- From: "A.Carlson" <amcarls@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:35:04 -0700
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:23:03 -0700, derdag
<derdag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 17, 11:36 am, Suzana <suz...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Man with all his noble qualities still bears in his bodily frame the
indelible stamp of his lowly origine.
Charles Darwin
'Consider this; We are, to a 98% approximation, chimpanzees, and they
are, with 98 % confidence human beings. If that doesn't dent your self
esteem consider that chimpanzees are only 97% gorillas, and humans are
also 97% per cent gorillas. In other words we are more chimpanzee like
then gorillas are.
There is no bone in chimpanzee body we do not share. There is no known
chemical in chimpanzee brain that can not be found in human brain.
There is no known immune system, digestive system, the vascular
system, the lymph system or the nervous system that we have and
chimpanzee don't or vice versa. There is not even a brain lobe in
chimpanzee brain that we do not share.'
From the theoretical point of divergence, the humans in Africa and theChimps have lived in the same niches and environments.
As you yourself point out below, this is simply not true. Our
intelligence has allowed us to adapt to more far-ranging environments
than our cousins the Chimps. We fill far more niches than Chimps do.
Does Natural
selection explain this as well as horizontal transfers through
vectors? People ended up at every corner of the earth with various
environments. Yet, chimps aren't human.
Correct, we are far better at adapting to different environments. I
guess that 2-3% difference is an important one.
Perhaps the amount of
genetic similarity is based on limited knowledge of how genes are
expressed.
It isn't as though our genes are 97-98% similar to non-primate animals
as well. We may not have a full understanding of how certain specific
genes are expressed but we do know that this is what is passed on from
generation to generation, it is what determines various
characteristics that may be positive or negative, and it is therefore
what drives the evolutionary process.
We are certainly designed from the same box of parts.
Same box of parts? Designed? I detect a major assumption here on how
we were 'created', an explanation that has no credible empirical
evidence that supports it.
When considering shared genes and even shared mutations, both descent
through modification and common descent makes for a far better theory,
especially given a number of other lines of evidence that come to bear
on this particular aspect of the ToE..
All this is possible because we share the same building block of life
(as any organic form on this planet) called genes. If I were to read
to you human genome one word per second for eight hours per day it
would have taken me a century. That is how incredibly large and
complex it is. And yet we share 98 per cent of it with chimpanzees.
The statistical significance that all life is related by way of
genetic relationship is 100% based upon the genetic code, three base
notes per amino acid, and design dictated by the code. Maybe you
should just blend the genes into finer segments and give me a 100%
reading?
Actually that's not a bad idea put into it's proper context. The fact
that all life relies on the same base material and utilize almost
identical processes is a good indication of common descent. Needless
to say there is plenty of other more compelling evidence in support of
this as well.
Now when you get down to the nitty-gritty and actually start observing
gene flow through various nested hierarchies, the evidence for both
common descent and descent through modification becomes even stronger.
I don't blame you for trying to obscure the blatantly obvious with an
argument for only a cursory look at different genes - it doesn't bode
well for your religious mythologies.
Now genes are not only the recipe for our physical appearance they
also influence our behaviour.
Let me remind you we have 2 per cent difference in genome between us
and chimpanzee. This is significant similarity.
May I ask; where had you been placing mankind prior to deciding that
we should be placed in the animal kingdom? below
What makes you think we are not part of the animal kingdom? When
looking at the big picture, at the variety of life that exists across
the spectrum, can you really say that we are that different from our
fellow primates?
Significant enough to
rid us of our vanity when comparing our selves to animal kingdom.
.
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