Re: Bible, Evolution, TEism: Ray v. the Mob


"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hang on, you're now saying *microevolution* is impossible?

Yes, in case you have not heard I have changed my position. My
research into evolutionary claims/evidence has shown that
microevolution has not occurred.

How do you explain all the laboratory and field studies that show that it
has?

Before, like most persons, I simply
accepted micro because if one does not they are a heretic.

Why not look at the evidence?

Now that I
have personally looked into the matter for some five years now the
evidence has convinced me that no evolution of any kind has occurred
in this biosphere.

Then you obviously have not examined the evidence. You are just making an
assumption based on your own ignorance.





That's
such an extreme statement that I know of no other creationist that
makes it.

Negative, there are other Creationists who reject any kind of
evolution too.

Such as?



You're aware that microevolution is something as simple as
a single point mutation in a genome. Are you claiming that DNA is
immutable, or that changes in DNA can't be passed on?


Citation please?

http://www.dna-geneticconnections.com/dna.html
http://www.dnadirect.com/patients/resources/how_genes_work/GH_Inheritance_patterns.jsp
http://www.dna-bioscience.co.uk/did_you_know_eye.shtml
http://www.dnacenter.com/science-technology/paternity-science.html


But for the sake of argument not everyone agrees with a "molecular-
based" definition of evolution. "

Who does not?

A change in gene frequencies" is
extreme reductionism; or "upward" reasoning so to speak. Any
definition of evoution must incorporate Darwin's original mutability
claim, the historic description, and paleobiological.

Ray, evolution is defined as change in allele frequencies in a population
over generations. Where do you get your wild ideas from?

DJT


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