Re: Re: Common ancestor between man and ape

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:06:06 -0700, UC <uraniumcommittee@xxxxxxxxx>
enriched this group when s/he wrote:

On Jun 6, 1:24 pm, Augray <aug...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:11:56 -0000, UC
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On Jun 6, 12:33 pm, Augray <aug...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:54:31 -0000, UC <uraniumcommit...@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Jun 5, 7:12 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:29:35 -0000, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by UC <uraniumcommit...@xxxxxxxxx>:

On Jun 5, 12:19 pm, amor...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <uranium-1181053738.227091.74...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,

UC <uraniumcommit...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snip]

It is so. Its meaning is dtermined by common usage.

Whose common usage?

If you don't understand this, the usage is recorded in books for your
convenience. They are called 'dictionaries'.

So now you've reversed your claim *again*, and dictionaries
*do* record usage? Even for Archie?

Archaeopteryx is a made-up, defined scientific name.

You mean that there are words that aren't made up? Have they always
existed?

There is no
question or long history of 'usage'.

150 years isn't a long history of 'usage'?

[snip]

No, it isn't.

Why not?

Nor is it used frequently by the general public, though
it is one of the most famous fossils.

Neither is "Allosaurus". Does that make it less of a dinosaur?

It is rarely used outside of
paleontology.

So what?

That means it is not a common, everyday, vernacular term, (such as
'house' or 'leather' or 'ball' or 'set' or 'play' or gift') that's
what.

which "set" do you mean?

set1
n verb (sets, setting; past and past participle set)
1 put, lay, or stand (something) in a specified place or
position. Ø(be set) be situated in a specified place or position.
Ørepresent (a story) as happening at a specified time or in a
specified place. Ømount a precious stone in (a piece of jewellery).
ØPrinting arrange (type or text) as required. Øprepare (a table) for a
meal by placing cutlery, crockery, etc., on it. Ø(set something to)
add (music) to a written work. ØSailing put (a sail) up in position to
catch the wind.
2 put, bring, or place into a specified state: the hostages were
set free. Øinstruct (someone) to do something. Øgive someone (a task):
the problem we have been set. Øestablish as (an example or record).
Ødecide on or fix (a time, value, or limit).
3 adjust (a device) as required.
4 harden into a solid, semi-solid, or fixed state. Øarrange
(damp hair) into the required style. Øput (a broken or dislocated bone
or limb) into the correct position for healing. Ø(of a hunting dog)
adopt a rigid attitude indicating the presence of game.
5 (of the sun, moon, etc.) appear to move towards and below the
earth's horizon as the earth rotates.
6 (of a tide or current) take or have a specified direction or
course.
7 chiefly North American start (a fire).
8 (of blossom or a tree) form into or produce (fruit).
9 informal or dialect sit.
10 (of a dancer) acknowledge one's partner using the steps
prescribed.

PHRASES
set one's heart (or hopes) on have a strong desire for or to
do.
set out one's stall display or show off one's abilities or
attributes.
set sail hoist the sails of a boat. Øbegin a voyage.
set one's teeth clench one's teeth together. Øbecome resolute.
set the wheels in motion begin a process or put a plan into action.

PHRASAL VERBS
set about
1 start doing something with vigour or determination.
2 British informal attack (someone).
set someone against cause someone to be in opposition or
conflict with.
set something (off) against offset something against.
set someone apart give someone an air of unusual superiority.
set something apart separate something and keep it for a
special purpose.
set something aside
1 save or keep something for a particular purpose. Øremove land
from agricultural production.
2 annul a legal decision or order.
set someone/thing back
1 delay or impede the progress of someone or something.
2 informal cost someone a particular amount of money.
set something by save something for future use.
set someone down British stop and allow someone to alight from
a vehicle.
set something down record something in writing or as an
authoritative rule or principle.
set forth begin a journey or trip.
set something forth state or describe something in writing or
speech.
set forward archaic start on a journey.
set in (of something unwelcome) begin and seem likely to
continue.
set something in insert something, especially a sleeve, into a
garment.
set off begin a journey.
set something off
1 cause a bomb or alarm to go off.
2 serve as decorative embellishment to.
set on (or upon) attack (someone) violently.
set someone/thing on (or upon) cause or urge a person or
animal to attack.
set out
1 begin a journey.
2 aim or intend to do something.
set something out arrange or display something in a particular
order or position.
set to begin doing something vigorously.
set someone up
1 establish someone in a particular capacity or role.
2 informal restore or enhance the health of someone.
3 informal make an innocent person appear guilty of something.
set something up
1 place or erect something in position.
2 establish a business, institution, etc.
3 begin making a loud sound.

ORIGIN
Old English settan, of Germanic origin; related to sit.


set2
n noun
1 a group or collection of things belonging or used together or
resembling one another. Øa group of people with common interests or
occupations: the literary set. ØBritish a group of pupils or students
of the same average ability in a subject who are taught together. Ø(in
tennis, darts, and other games) a group of games counting as a unit
towards a match. Ø(in jazz or popular music) a sequence of songs or
pieces constituting or forming part of a live show or recording. Øa
group of people making up the required number for a country dance.
ØMathematics & Logic a collection of distinct entities regarded as a
unit, being either individually specified or (more usually) satisfying
specified conditions.
2 the way in which something is set, disposed, or positioned.
Ø(also dead set) a hunting dog's act of indicating the presence of
game. Øa warp or bend in wood, metal, etc., caused by continued strain
or pressure.
3 a radio or television receiver.
4 a collection of scenery, stage furniture, etc., used for a
scene in a play or film.
5 a cutting, young plant, or bulb used in the propagation of new
plants. Øa young fruit that has just formed.
6 the last coat of plaster on a wall.
7 Printing the width of letters in a particular typeface. Øthe
width of a piece of type.
8 variant spelling of sett.
9 Snooker another term for plant (in sense 4).
10 Australian/New Zealand informal a grudge.
n verb (sets, setting, setted) British group (pupils or
students) in sets.

PHRASES
make a dead set at British make a determined attempt to win
the affections of. [by association with hunting (see dead set above).]
ORIGIN
Middle English: partly from Old French sette, from Latin secta
'sect', partly from set1.


set3
n adjective
1 fixed or arranged in advance. Ø(of a restaurant menu) offered
at a fixed price with a limited choice of dishes. Ø(of a book)
prescribed for study. Øhaving a conventional or predetermined wording;
formulaic.
2 firmly fixed and unchanging.
3 ready, prepared, or likely to do something: we're all set for
tonight! Ø(set against) firmly opposed to. Ø(set on) determined to do.
ORIGIN
Old English, past participle of set1.



The fact that it was identified as a dinosaur counts against my
claiming it should not be called a 'bird' for what reason?

Where was it identified as a dinosaur as opposed to a bird? Why can't
it be both?

Why can't be..GASP...NEITHER?

It is both.


Actually, it was identified as a pterosaur. My mistake.
--
Bob.

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