Re: Perry Marshall DNA is language MP3 transcribed

On Jun 6, 6:26 am, backspace <sawireless2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perry Marshall mp3 audiohttp://1cosmos.org/transcribed.
To have information you need matter, energy and will. 12.20
The message is seperate from the media. All information requires
thought.
Can patterns turn into designs. Is dna a pattern or a design?

ATCG letters of the DNA alphabet. It takes 500000 letters to represent
a living organism.
In a human it takes 3billion and there is one of those messages in
every cell. The information storage mechanism of DNA is more dense
than anything we know.

It is comparable to language
* DNA Language
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleotide, characters.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codons- letters
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genome- words
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operon- sentences
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulon- paragraphs
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome- chapters

DNA is encoding decoding mechanism that stores and transmits the
message of the livinng organisminformation. Biologists used linguistic
analysis to decode the human genome. Tools that linguists use to
analyze languages ...... 16.36

What makes a language. It symbolically represents something other than
itself. To have information you must have a transmitter and receiver.
Language has these four characteristics alphabet, grammar, meaning and
intent(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatics). Genes, computer
code, feromones between insects, dogs barking and human speech have
these four characteristics. Nearly all languages have error correction
or redundancy. English is about 50% redundant. If you can hear every
other word you can figure out what is being said.

Is DNA a pattern or a language? DNA is an encoding, decoding
mechanism. DNA represents more than itself, it represents an entire
living organism.
'''It has alphabet, syntax, meaning-semantics and pragmatics or
alphabet, grammar, meaning and intent.'''
It can be copied and stored in other media without loss of
information. Information is distinct and seperate from whatever it is
stored in. The pattern in DNA is not like a language, it is a
language. Some disagree stateing that DNA is a molecule.
DNA molecule is an encoding, decoding system. You can change the
alphabet and still have the same message.

All languages contain grammar. If I say the "car is red". Is the car
red - that is syntax.
Semantics would be "Did he steal that car" but by changeing the accent
the semantics changes.
Intent: You have a green light. It could mean you are holding a green
light bulb. Or you have a green light to drive your car. Two
completely different meanings based on intent. Intent changed but
syntax and semantics, grammar didn't change.

Information can be stored transmittered by matter such as a book or
energy such as sound. But information itself is neither matter nor
energy. If you only have alphabet or syntax but have no meaning or
intent you have a meaningless sentence. In other words there has to be
other sentences so you can understand what I mean by you have a green
light. 25:32

The core issue for materialism is: Matter and energy all by themselves
can't produce information. Cybernetics is the study of the interaction
between man and machine.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Weinersaid: '''"Information
is information, neither energy nor matter, any materialism that fails
to take account of this will not survive oneday.'''" 26:51

Perry draws a three dimensional axis. Matter on x-axis. Energy on the
y-axis. But the z-axis is will. Information can't be created without
intent. There are no examples of information created without intent.
All encoding, decoding systems come from a mind.

The problem with an Atheist belief is there is no way to explain where
the DNA language came from. Because all encoding, decoding systems
come from a mind. The element that is common to both Paley's watch and
life is language.
Life is preceded by DNA and a watch is preceded by a blueprint or at
least an idea in somebody's mind that preceded the building of a
watch.
29.00 David Hume and Paley 30:35
The essential distinction between patterns and designs is language.
Patterns don't have language - designs do. The fundamental property of
all designs is that an idea precedes the implementation of the idea.
The idea exists in symbolic form before it is physically built. For an
idea to exist it must be represented by a language. Ideas allways
precedes implementation, all languages come from a mind - no
exceptions. Therefore a mind designed DNA, therefore God exists. Show
me a language that doesn't come from a mind.

My Comment byhttp://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/TongueSpeaker
The irony in Perry's presentation is that he goes on to ask: Did an
antelope evolve into a giraffe. But without telling me what "evolve"
means - no intent - I have no idea. And I say this based on Robert
Sapolsky
Scientific American March 2003 "Bugs in the Brain" Robert Sapolsky p.
73: "... most of the deeply entrenched idea that evolution is
directional and progressive: invertebrates are more primitive than
vertebrates, mammals are the most evolved of vertebrates ... Some of
my best students fall for that one, no matter how much I drone on in
lectures. If you buy into that idea big-time, you're not just wrong,
you're not all that many steps away from a philosophy that has humans
directionally evolved as well, with the most evolved being northern
Europeans with a teste for schnitzel and goose-stepping."

Who's verion of "evolve" is Perry refering to? Evolve defined by whom.
The word "evolve" has no meaning without intent. And neither doeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_success"...Reproductive
success is defined as the passing of genes onto the next generation in
a way that they too can pass those genes on."
Defined by whom? If you don't tell me who says so the sentence is
meaningless just as meaningless as "You have a green light" if there
is no intent.

I could define the appearance of tree rings as a language by trees
used to describe the conditions they're in, but that doesn't make it
require intelligent design either.

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