Re: Is Natural Selection the mechanism of Evolution?



In article <1180810834.778266.217830@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
backspace <sawireless2000@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Jun 2, 7:57 pm, bdbry...@xxxxxxxxxxx (Bobby Bryant) wrote:
In article <1180781938.794022.203...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
backspace <sawireless2...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

Is Natural Selection the mechanism of the Theory of Evolution?

No, it's "a" mechanism of the theory of evolution.

And Darwin said that what he meant by "Natural Selection" is
"Survival of the Fittest". So in other words "what survives
survives" is the mechanims of the Theory of Evolution? You did
ofcourse know that in Darwins book 'Natural Selection' is equivalent
to "Survival of the Fittest"? If you reject "Sur Fittest" as an
obvious tautology then you reject Darwin's phrase "Natural
Selection".

What if I don't reject it as an obvious tautology?

Do you reject the fact that some individuals in a species are better
adapted to their environment than others?

Do you reject the fact that such differences can result in a differential
reproductive success?

Do you have a problem, other than not liking evolution and not having
the power to make reality go away?


Because just stateing "Natural Selection" is meaningless if the
author don't tell us what he means by it. So I am asking you: Who's
version of Natural Selection are you using because you haven't
defined for me what you mean by "Natural Selection"?

Re-read the above if you want to know what I think natural selection
means.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection makes the same mistake:
"...Natural selection is one of the cornerstones of modern
biology....."

What mistake? The mistake of calling attention to something that you
don't like?


In other words "Survival of the fittest" - those that survived,
survived and those that didn't are dead because they are not fit is
now the cornerstone of modern biology? Well ofcourse not, nobody
will make such a preposterous statement and thus I ask Wikipedia to
get another author, they are making a mistake in stateing that
Darwin's phrase "Natural Selection" or "survival of the fittest" is
the cornerstone of biology.

Actually they said "one of the" rather than "the". And, sorry to break
the news to you, but it's not a mistake.


The confusion that Darwin himself had over "Natural Selection" was
far deeper than just his absurd phrase "Survival fittest". He uses
the phrase "Natural Selection" over 350 times and Theory of Natural
Selection 36 times. Now what on earth did he mean by the 350 times
he repeated NS without prefixing "Theory"?

If "Natural Selection" is one of the mechanisms of Evolution, what
then is "The Theory of Evolution". To rephrase your sentence:
The theory of Natural Selection is the mechanism of the Theory of
Evolution. Don't you see how absurd this is?

Yes, I see that's a very very absurd way to rephrase my sentence.

An accurate rephrasing would be, "Natural selection is a mechanism
of the theory of evolution."

--
Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada

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