Re: OT: Jerry Falwell dead. Excellent!


"Ray Martinez" <pyramidial@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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How many people did the Nazi's select for extinction since we are
apes?

Ray, it has been pointed out time and time again, that the ToE has
nothing
with eugenics or genocide to do.

It is a historical fact that Darwin and all his major successors
promoted eugenics, which was, of course, invented by his cousin, based
on his theory. "Descent" (1871) endorsed Spencer's vicious
philosophical version.

Ray, "historical fact" does not mean "something I just made up". Galton
did not 'invent' eugenics, nor did Darwin promote eugenics. Even if they
did, however, it would not mean there is anything wrong with evolutionary
theory.


The "great" Ronald Fisher was a eugenics
fanatic, as were all the prominent evolutionists prior to the 1940s.

Do you have any evidence to support this assertion?

The "fact" of evolution made these "great" men believe that they were
selected because of their intellectual superiority.

Ray, evolution occurs in populations, not individuals.

When the Nazi's
took things literally evolutionists were forced to do what you are now
doing: act like eugenics was never part of the programme.

The Nazis did not "take things literally", in regards to evolution.
Evolutionary theory does not support the idea that one human population is
superior to any other.

Denial shows
the degree of your ignorance or ability to lie.

In which case your denial is off the charts....

But since human
evolution is the ultimate form of eugenics-gutter racism no amount of
shouting "it is science" can cover the obvious and ugly truth from
honest and objective persons.

Evolution is neither "eugenics" or "gutter racism". No matter how often
you assert that, it doesn't become any more true. Also, Ray, you have no
right speaking for honest, or objective persons, as you are not incuded in
either of those two groups.




If you would take the trouble of taking a peek at Pandas Thumb, you will
find an article by Andrea Bottaro (posted May 15th), title: Dr. West,
meet
Dr. Tinkle, Creatinonist eugenicist."

Follow the link there to read it all, and check out the references if you
still are in doubt.

You might learn something, but judging by your track record, nothing can
penetrate your thick skull. You think you already know all there is to
know,
you know better than anyone else, and you do not wont to learn anything.
You
resist knowledge, you are stubborn and immovable.


"Correction" tactic.

When you are wrong, correction is the right tactic.


Anytime an evolutionist-eugenics-human evolution-gutter racist plays
this card we know it is out of frustration attempting to cover or
revise the ugly truth.

Since Rolf is not a "gutter racist", there is no such card to play.


Don't you think it is wise to study a subject before making up your mind?
But your mind is already made up, and no amount of facts can make you
change
tour mind.


Comment presupposes the exact opposite of what is true.

What is true is that you don't allow facts to change your mind.

Since you are
a Darwinist I am glad you disagree, anytime a Darwinist agrees with a
Creationist then we are falsified.

That formula does not make any sense, and you don't even accept it for
yourself. You agree with "Darwinists" all the time, whenever you think they
support what you claim.




A wise man studies a subject, and weighs the arguments for and against,
and
uses his ratio; his reasoning power to decide what to believe. He also
may
change his mind if new information makes that reasonable.


Then why are you a Darwinist?

Because the evidence supports the theory of evolution.


Document one preexisting advantageous variation that was genetically
selected and passed on causing the modified species not to die but
survive?

One such "advantageous variation" is higher milk yield in cows. Cows who
produce more milk are "genetically selected" by farmers and that muation is
passed on to their descendants, which caused the "modified species" to not
die, but survive.

More such examples can be found in dog breeding, grain crops, fruit
production, etc.


Also, where is your objective essay showing Velikovsky's
presuppositions, claims and evidence and why said evidence does not
support his claims or justify his presuppositions?

Science does not support his claims because the evidence has shown the
claims are false. His "presuppositions" are wrong as most of what he
claimed turned out to be wrong.

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I also find it very interesting that Jerry Falwell's parents were
fanatically atheist. According to the average T.O. dummy religious
convictions are learned and do not originate from a non-existing God.

Why would Falwell's parent's lack of religious beliefs disprove any of that?
Falwell did learn his religious beliefs.

DJT


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