Re: Core beliefs

"snex" wrote

"Craig Franck" wrote:

"snex" wrote

Zoe wrote:

I guess the real point of contact has to be WHY we have the core
beliefs that we have, and can they be justified.

I think I can justify my core belief. Can the evolutionist or the
theistic evolutionist justify his/her core belief?

you are only half right. creationists do have a core belief in which
they interpret all facts. scientists simply draw logical inferences
from the facts themselves. there is no core belief that scientists
adhere too when looking at facts. scientists only draw conclusions
that the facts themselves warrant.

This is bordering on propaganda.

There are clearly a number of selection effects such as
wanting to prove your own theory correct, be socially
accepted by relevant peers, and any number of other
biases present in prioritizing and funding projects.

In the development of new drugs, it's built right into the
methodology that scientists can't be impartial.

and there are equally many scientists trying to *disprove* each other.
everybody is kept honest by this.

That's true, but it's not what you originally claimed. As
Free Lunch pointed out, that was an idealized description of
the process.

Also, "there is no core belief that scientists adhere too when
looking at facts" is an overstatement. Presumably, they are
looking for some sort of naturalistic explanation and they
believe science can possibly find one.

"[S]cientists only draw conclusions that the facts themselves
warrant" is also a questionable claim; two equally qualified
scientists can draw opposite conclusions. And the whole
point of theories is to go beyond what the evidence supports.

Otherwise, you haven't added anything but simply rearranged
what was already present.

it just so happens that no facts
warrant the conclusion that any gods exist. too bad for gods.

Scientists can't agree on whether Pluto is a planet or not,
but they can be completely rational as to whether or not
god[s] exist. Okay. . .

you idiot, scientists are not in disagreement over pluto's physical
properties, just over the definition of "planet."

There are no disagreements over the physical properties of
Pluto? I find that extremely hard to believe.

But my point was the debate showed individual biases on the
part of many scientists.

My comment was made partly in jest. Why you feel the need
to start in with name calling is beyond me.

--
Craig Franck
craig.franck@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cortland, NY

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