Re: Talk Origins Photo Album

On May 6, 7:23 am, Tiny Bulcher <alycid...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 5 May, 21:56, Ray Martinez <pyramid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Persons who believe in Darwinism have made the Con. say what they want
it to say. That is the only reason why Creationism is outlawed. After
the tribulation period we will have the power to dimiss the entire
Federal bench and reverse the atheist corruption of the Constitution
and restore freedom of religion and science to the classroom.

Oh, well, we've got no worries, then. Unless Ray planning his own
personal 'tribulation period'. He is the only True Christian on Earth,
after all.

Not ONE
FF intended for the Bible to be banned from anything.

I know very little about your Constitution, and have never understood
why it is worshipped as a holy relic, but, tell me, does Thomas
Jefferson count as a founding father?

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between
man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or
his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions
only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that
act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature
should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of
separation between church and State.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1,
1802

History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of
ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will
always avail themselves for their own purposes.

-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and
doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and
such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of
other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause,
to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New
Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded
from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of
very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick
out diamonds from dunghills.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to
liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses
in return for protection to his own.

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814

Doesn't sound much like a Bible-believer, does he?

*waits for Ray to claim Jefferson is a dastardly invention of atheist-
darwinists, who stole the real Constitution and substituted their own,
the villains*

Jefferson, Thomas VIRGINIA STATUTE OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (January 16,
1786)
Jefferson, Gov. Thomas, PROCLAMATION APPOINTING A DAY OF THANKSGIVING
AND PRAYER (November 11, 1779)
THE AMERICAN COVENANT

Our nation has been supernaturally protected these past four hundred
years because of our forbearers' covenants with God. In drafting a
document which states our collective intention to renew that covenant,
we compiled what in legal terms would be called a Restatement. This
document does not say anything new: it is a collection of quotations
from key American leaders. Our prayer is for each person, every
family, each church, every town, each county, and every state to sign
this renewed covenant with God to let Him know that the remnant
remains and we are still one nation under God.Best Regards,
Mike Sharman

Our Covenant for America's Second Four Hundred Years (Annotated)

In the name of God, Amen. 1 We humble ourselves before the divine
Author of our individual and national existence 2 and ask Him to
provide a safe journey for us and our children through our nation's
next four hundred years. 3 Almighty God rules over the universe. He is
the Lord of our bodies and our minds. 4 He presides in the councils of
nations. 5 He is the great Provider of all public and private good 6
that was, that is, or that will be. 7 Throughout our history, He has
been our constant friend. 8 Humbly we approach His throne with praise
for the wonders which He has done and with gratitude for His glorious
light of the gospel, whereby, through the merits of the gracious
Redeemer, we may ourselves become the heirs of God's eternal glory. 9
We commit to Him that our first and principal desire is to assist our
families and neighbors to come to the true worship of God as He is
revealed in the Bible. 10 We acknowledge that the Bible is itself the
government of the People, by the People, and for the People. 11 We
remain convinced that the only legitimate purpose of government is to
promote the welfare of mankind 12 and to secure God-given rights 13 ,
therefore, we should choose leaders who entirely love and will promote
the common good. 14 Our public officials need to be a praying people
and a prayed-for people. 15 We ask the God of Wisdom, the Great
Governor of the World, to encourage our leaders to create laws that
would honor Him and be in keeping with His Word. 16 We recognize that
our blessings of liberty cannot be preserved unless we firmly adhere
to 17 the foundations of our national policy which were laid in the
eternal rules which God Himself ordained. 18 When we as individuals
are not influenced by those moral principles, we look in vain for
public virtue. 19 Recognition of the Supreme Being has always been the
first and most basic expression of Americanism 20, but even those who
do not believe in God receive the blessings of our nation's settled
and quiet Government 21 because God's fundamental principles of
liberty formed the basis on which our nation's laws were erected. 22
We realize, however, that we are a nation of differing and often
competing faiths, a body politic comprised of freemen, rather than a
religious dictatorship imposed upon the unwilling. 23 The manner in
which we carry out the duty we owe to our Creator can be directed only
by reason and conviction, and not by force or violence. 24 Our
citizenship duties are to practice Christian forbearance, love, and
charity towards each other. 25 Bigotry is simply inconsistent with our
declaration 26 that Creator God made all men equally free, endowed
with inherent rights for the enjoyment of life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness. 27 These truths are self-evident and need no
other proof 28 , and we will not, and can not, sell these gifts from
God, or give them away. 29 We depend solely upon the Great Arbiter of
the Universe by whom empires rise and fall 30 and the Invisible Hand
31 which has given us the choicest bounties of Heaven. We recognize
the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all
history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord. We
humble ourselves before God's power, confess our national sins, and
pray for His forgiveness. 32 Lord, we sing "In God Is our Trust" to
you in a united chorus. 33 Grant us a new birth of freedom in You, so
that our government of the people, by the people, for the people,
shall not perish from the earth 34, but shall continue as one nation,
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 35 All this
we ask in the name and through the merits of Jesus Christ



1 Bradford, William, MAYFLOWER COMPACT (November 11, 1620)
2 Second Continental Congress, DECLARATION OF THE CAUSES AND NECESSITY
OF TAKING UP ARMS (July 6, 1775)
3 Ezra 8:31
4 Jefferson, Thomas VIRGINIA STATUTE OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (January 16,
1786)
5 Washington, George, WASHINGTON'S FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS (April 30,
1789)
6 Washington, George, WASHINGTON'S FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS (April 30,
1789)
7 WASHINGTON'S THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION (October 3, 1789)
8 BENJAMIN FRANKIN'S REQUEST FOR DAILY PRAYER IN CONGRESS, Recorded in
James Madison's notes (June 28, 1787)
9 Jefferson, Gov. Thomas, PROCLAMATION APPOINTING A DAY OF
THANKSGIVING AND PRAYER (November 11, 1779)
10 SECOND CHARTER OF VIRGINIA (May 23, 1609), and ORDINANCE FOR
VIRGINIA (July 24, 1621)
11 Wycliffe, John, GENERAL PROLOGUE OF THE WYCLIFFE TRANSLATION OF THE
BIBLE (1382)
12 Second Continental Congress, DECLARATION OF THE CAUSES AND
NECESSITY OF TAKING UP ARMS (July 6, 1775)
13 Jefferson, Thomas, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE (July 4th, 1776)
14 ROBINSON, JOHN "LONG LETTER" TO THE SPEEDWELL-MAYFLOWER COMPANY
(July 27, 1620)
15 Pory, John, PROCEEDINGS OF THE FIRST AMERICAN LEGISLATURE (July 30,
1619)
16 Rev. Mr. Duché, 1ST Resolution of the Continental Congress (Sept.
6, 1774); and Dickinson, John ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION (November 15,
1777)
17 Mason, George, THE VIRGINIA DECLARATION OF RIGHTS, Art. 15 (June
12, 1776); and THE NORTHWEST ORDINANCE, Art. 3 (July 13, 1787)
18 Washington, George, WASHINGTON'S FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS (April 30,
1789)
19 ADDRESS OF THE SENATE TO GEORGE WASHINGTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES (May 7, 1789); and WASHINGTON'S FAREWELL ADDRESS (September 19,
1796)
20 Ford, Gerald, Proclamation 4338 - National Day of Prayer, 1974,
quoting President Dwight D. Eisenhower
21 FIRST CHARTER OF VIRGINIA (April 10, 1606)
22 THE NORTHWEST ORDINANCE (July 13, 1787)
23 ROBINSON, JOHN "LONG LETTER" TO THE SPEEDWELL-MAYFLOWER COMPANY
(July 27, 1620)
24 Mason, George, THE VIRGINIA DECLARATION OF RIGHTS, Art. 16 (June
12, 1776)
25 Mason, George, THE VIRGINIA DECLARATION OF RIGHTS, Art. 16 (June
12, 1776)
26 Quock Walker v. Nathaniel Jennison, (J. Cushing, Massachusetts,
1783)
27 Mason, George, THE VIRGINIA DECLARATION OF RIGHTS, Art. 1 (June 12,
1776); DECLARATION AND RESOLVE OF THE FIRST CONTINENTAL CONGRESS, Art.
1, (October 14, 1774)
28 Jefferson, Thomas, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE (July 4th, 1776)
29 Mason, George, THE VIRGINIA DECLARATION OF RIGHTS, Art. 1 (June 12,
1776)
30 ADDRESS OF THE SENATE TO GEORGE WASHINGTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES (May 7, 1789)
31 ADDRESS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO GEORGE WASHINGTON,
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES (May 5, 1789)
32 Lincoln, Abraham PROCLAMATION OF a day of humiliation, fasting and
prayer, (March 30, 1863)
33 The National Anthem (last stanza), Adopted By Congress, (March 3,
1931)
34 Lincoln, Abraham The Gettysburg Address, (November 19, 1863)
35 Pledge of Allegiance Adopted By Congress (June 14, 1954)


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