Re: Wedging in creation theory

On 24 Apr, 01:36, "nando_rontel...@xxxxxxxxx"
<nando_rontel...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

alternatives in the future, getting decided upon, and what does the
job of realizing the one alternative in stead of the other is
spiritual.

You've said that before, but you have never explained it.

I've explained it lots of times.

No you think you have. You tend to stop when you get to the word
'spiritual' and never explain what it actualy means.


What is the
spiritual?

For any alternatives you choose to act on, your likes and dislikes are
what does the job of realising the one alternative and discarding the
other. The likes and dislikes are spiritual.

So spiritual = cognitive activity. Not really the definition of
spiritual that anyone else uses.


How does it interface with the physical?

By realising the one alternative, and discarding the other.

'Choosing' in a single words. So if you boil down what you are saying
you are saying we think about stuff and choose from alternatives.
Only real difference is that I know alternatives are what we create
and you think they exist physically in the future, only they
'collapse' before they get to the present.

How does one measure
it?

You can only approach the spiritual by choosing, not measurement.

You can measure cognitive ability through the measurement of mental
activity and by observing human behavour. So yes you can measure the
'spiritual' in the way you define it.

Oh, yes, I forgot, there is no spiritometer. One cannot measure
freedom scientifically.

You can choose, so you can know the spiritual domain.

Or think as most people call it.

What else are you going to do with your choosingpower anyway.
Measurement is just for machines really.

No it's for real stuff, like the brain. You think using your brain. I
know this sounds very very obvious but you appear not to know this.
Where else do you think you make decisions if not the brain? We can
see decisions being made, this is not some mystery.

You appear to be unaware of some very very basic stuff here. You
can't understand freedom unless you understand how decisions happen.
You don't have the first clue how you make decisions do you? Have you
ever bothered to read up on any psychology - if not then you havnt
started to learn about decision making.

I'll ask you again - why are you a coffee lover?

Stew Dean


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