Re: "is it science?" ruling in Dover
- From: TomS <TomS_member@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 13 Mar 2007 05:25:30 -0700
"On 12 Mar 2007 21:12:26 -0700, in article
<1173759146.800820.91640@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, riplin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
stated..."
On Mar 8, 4:52 am, TomS <TomS_mem...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"On 7 Mar 2007 07:15:38 -0800, in article
<1173280538.814681.321...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, MitchAlsup stated..."
On Mar 7, 6:15 am, TomS <TomS_mem...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Arnold H. Loewy
The Wisdom and Constitutionality of Teaching Intelligent Design in Public
Schools
pages 82-89
religionLoewe says in his article that when he read "Pandas and People" that it looked
like science to him: "Indeed, the book bore such little resemblance to
that I found it hard to believe that people on either side of the debate cared
very much that children were reading it." Katskee points out that because it
does look like science, that is a good reason to point out that those
appearances are mistaken.
Barbara Forest slaughtered this line of reasoning at the trial. If
Lowe continues to hold this up as credible doubt, then he is posturing
himself as an idiot.
To make one thing clear, Loewy says "The evidence of religious purpose in
this case was so overwhelming that there can be little doubt that the
School Board was seeking to inject as much religion as possible into the
curriculum."
I am not a lawyer, but I have to say that Loewy's article struck me as
very weak. (And I wasn't very favorably impressed with Wexler's, either,
if anybody should ask me.)
Just to mention one of my pet peeves, he seems to believe that in 15th
century Spain, scientists were flat-earthers. I guess he thinks that
Columbus proved that the earth was round by sailing across the
Atlantic Ocean.
The thing about Columbus was that he was wrong. He asserted that the
Earth was only 17,000 miles around and because it was known that west
to east was 13,000 miles it was only 4,000 miles to sail to Japan.
That is why he was scorned by the scientists of the day, it had been
known that the earth was 24,000 miles since 500BC and Ptolomey's
Geographica was based on a 24,000 mile coordinate system.
I have read that Columbus based his idea of the size of the earth in
part on an interpretation of a Biblical verse that led him to believe
that there was more land than water on the surface. (I don't recall
the reference, but it was something from the "Apocrypha".)
Columbus believed he had sailed past Japan to the 'Indies' and never
thought that he had discovered new lands.
In fact it is unlikely that he 'discovered' anything. He lived in
Madeira and would have been in the right place if any castaways had
been blown across to the caribean and then returned via the trades.
There is evidence from his log that he knew of places that he was
sailing to and had names for them before he was even there.
--
---Tom S.
"...when men have a real explanation they explain it, eagerly and copiously and
in common speech, as Huxley freely gave it when he thought he had it."
GK Chesterton, Doubts About Darwinism (1920)
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