Re: OT: Conservapedia

On Mar 6, 7:53 am, Ilas <nob...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good grief, but that site is funny. I've just wasted an hour clicking on
random pages - here's the lowdown on Korea:

"A counrty that is now spilt because of the issue of communism. We went to
war with North Korea (the communist half) from 1950-53, to help South
Korea, the half which had been assaulted first. It is known as the Korean
War. "

....and France (the entire entry):

"A country in Europe. Thrived during the middle ages. The capitol is Paris,
France, which was founded in the Middle Ages. "

I mean, come on. They did invent berets and long loaves of bread. Isn't
that worth at least a mention?

....apartheid South Africa:

"....there was far more immigration by Europeans to South Africa than any
other region of Africa, and whites of European ancestry completely ruled
South Africa until the late 1900s."

Late 1900s? Really?

.....Chinese civilisation:

"Civilization in China began in 2200 BC and continues to the present day"

Phew! Lucky Chinese, eh?

.....and finally, Saddam Hussein:

"Saddam was captured by America, and, after a trial, hanged on December 30,
2006, as he had received a suspended sentence"


The article on the moon is priceless. A few days ago someone posted
part of it, including the following

"2. The Moon presents the same side to Earth at all times, even though
the Moon revolves around the Earth. That requires the rotation of the
Moon to be timed precisely to offset the separate effects of the
revolution around Earth. This has an awesome artistic or design effect
without any plausible physical reason."

Apparently someone attempted (unsuccessfully) to get Andy a clue about
tidal locking. Now the following has been added.

"Skeptics sought to explain this remarkable phenomenon by saying that
tidal forces on Earth caused a bulge on the Moon, thereby locking in
the rotation of the Moon so that its same face always presents to the
Earth. They asserted that the planet Mercury has a similar locked
rotation due to gravitation forces from the sun, such that the same
side of Mercury always faces the sun.

But this explanation was ultimately proven wrong.[1]Mercury does not
always present the same face to the sun as claimed, and instead
switches the side that it presents to the sun every full revolution.
As to the Moon, the tidal forces on the Earth cannot account fully for
its bulge or egg shape. The cause of the bulge on the Moon to lock in
its rotation remains a mystery to those who reject design. "

The reference cited in [1] is

http://physics.fortlewis.edu/Astronomy/astronomy%20today/CHAISSON/AT308/HTML/AT30803.HTM

I was curious about the disproof of tidal locking, so I went there and
found

"The fact that the Moon is in a synchronous orbit around Earth is no
accident. It is an inevitable consequence of the gravitational
interaction between those two bodies."

followed by an explanation of how tidal locking works. It also
explains the 3:2 resonance of Mercury's orbit and rotation as a result
of tidal locking on an orbit with a large eccentricity.

I just can't understand why someone would cite a reference that says
they are wrong, but it's not a first. I remember Karl doing this with
the woodpecker, citing various sources to back up his claim that
woodpecker anatomy was fundamentally different from other birds When
it was pointed out to him that his sources said the exact opposite his
reply was that we were all interpreting in wrong - it appeared to
disagree with him but if you really studied it you would find the real
meaning, which was exactly opposite to what you'd get on a first
impression. Perhaps that what Andy is doing here.




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