Re: Lottery Winners Gamblers Logic Evolution


Al wrote:
Kermit wrote:
Al wrote:
Turner wrote:
What exactly is your point?
The point is that functioning life forms cannot be generated from
something that has no generative power.

This is medieval language. Please briefly describe the minimal
configuration of a representative self-replicating molecule, and an
estimate for how many different ones there are. Then show why you think
the laws of chemistry cannot create that molecule.

-And that atomic structure
cannot be genereated from something more primary that has no intention,

Please explain why intent is necessary for subatomic particles to form
atoms.

no prupose, no symmetry inherencies etc etc etc.

Please justify. I could say that galaxies cannot be formed without a
starter culture of yogurt, and I would be offering the same amount of
supporting evidence as you have for your assertion here.

Kermit

You still don't get it. The laws of physics are about something
observed.

Okaayyy...

the "Laws were MADE.

Really? How can you tell? It's not obvious to me, nor many other people
who seem smarter than I, or at least more disciplined. Do you have some
evidence, or at least some persuasive reasoning?

I am well aware of the human propensity for seeing patterns -
especially faces - everywhere they look.

I am very nearly convinced, I admit, by the use of your all caps in the
last word.

They are proof that there is no random.

You keep using "random" as verb, the best I can tell. What do you mean
by that?

They are proof that there is intention.

One questionable and one meaningless assertion do not lead to a
conclusion.

They are proof that the shear
weight of large numbers are NOT responsible for inevitable
functionality;

What does this (assuming you speak of evolution in some confused way)
have to do with the laws of physics?

The INTENTION behind the laws of physics brought into being a state of
matter WE call "The Laws Of Physics."

How do you know there is an intention, and what do you think it is? If
you believe that this is a scientific assertion, then you must have at
least the rough outline of a testable model, yes?

This is irreducibly (for us) the
primary thought which generated a biological tendancy in matter, which
allows all matter of things to form and exist and grow - ie; nature.
That is always my argument
There is no need to transpose this argument into post modernism to
satisfy the elect.

What primary thought?
What is a biological tendency?
How is matter allowed to do anything?
I can't tell what your argument *is.
WTF does post-modernism have to do with your argument? I haven't
noticed any tendency in the scientific elite to use post-modernism in
their work.
How does one transpose an argument?
Who *are the elect - the educated?

"...cranky scientific "theories" do not in fact qualify as theories as
this term is commonly understood within science. For example, crank
"theories" in physics typically fail to result in testable predictions,
which makes them unfalsifiable and hence useless."

"[Cranks]... misunderstand or fail to use standard notation and
terminology,"

From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_%28person%29

Kermit

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