Re: The Second Law of Intelligence


"Zoe" <muze10@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 00:11:50 -0500, "bullpup" <bullpup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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"Zoe" <muze10@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On 5 Sep 2006 19:50:06 -0700, "Inez" <savagemouse123@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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zoe wrote:

A bed may eventually develop if the flowing river of water remains
in
the setting long enough, which, in this instance, immediately puts
the
water before the bed, not synergistically with the bed. Or a dry
bed
might be present before a river of water flows into it, which puts
the
bed first before the water.

Well, the helium for your balloon was likely in existence billions of
years before the balloon.

that's okay. But at the point that the helium gets directed into the
balloon, you now have baseline synergy occurring. This is not about
the history of the parts. It is about the coming together of parts to
produce a new system or function.

So humans can inflate baloons with helium. Wow. So, when are you going
to
present the natural analogy that couldn't possibly have come about
naturally, that only IDiocy can explain?

I already have presented some examples of baseline synergy in nature,
where you can't have one without the other:

What you presented was rhetorical games.


The chicken and the egg.

Descent with modification through time.


The seed and the plant.

Descent with modification through time.


The protein produced by a system that itself requires protein in order
to exist.

Perhaps that "daughter protein" was not essential for the "first life", and
possibly touches on the "metabolism first" abiogenesis hypothesis.


An ecosystem in which the ozone layer has to be in place immediately
if the life forms are to survive.

What makes you think that the ozone layer is the only natural way for UV to
be blocked or reducedto non-leathal levels? Is there some reason that UV
cannot be blocked by various minerals desolved in the water where life
began? Also, what makes you think that the first life was even vunerable to
UV? Is there some rule that says that a UV tolerant organism *could not* be
the "first life"?

Boikat
--
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own"
-Adam Savage, Mythbusters-

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