Re: Ken Shaw: Pinch Yourself


Stile4aly wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:

We know the GP was exactly 5449 polar diameter inches from the ground
to the original summit platform. "The GP never had a capstone" (Dr.
Scott).

On what basis does he make this claim? Known pyramidions that have
survived were built from obsidian, which would have been a very
valuable find for the grave robbers who plundered the treasures of the
pyramids.


There is one claim and one fact.

The claim is the subject of the post and well evidenced. Facts about
the GP are produced by scholars. There is no capstone on the GP,
therefore, the only other option for you is to provide evidence for
your claim. Since you are a Darwinist who believes the crust of the
Earth intentionally with held the evidence of intermediacy, it is no
surprise that you believe someone stole a 30+ ton object.

All you have to do is back up your claim with evidence or a scholar
that shares your view that has no evidence.


500,000,000 pd inches = the distance between the North and South poles
along the polar axis.

one pd inch = 1/1000th of an inch longer than the British inch, or
1.001064 British inches. 1/1000th of an inch = average thickness of a
human hair.

Sputnik artificial orbiting satellite (1957) measured the polar
diameter of the Earth:

Sputnik couldn't have been placed into orbit without already knowing
the diameter of the earth, Ray.


Unsupported assertion evading the evidence that proved otherwise. Why
would a person do this ?

Inability to refute.


"The results of the latest geodetic research since the International
Geophysical Year 1957-8 reveal that the mean polar ***radius*** of the
Earth, as deduced from observation of the orbits of artificial Earth
satellites is 3949.9 miles. Dividing this figure by 10,000,000, the
result is 25.0266 British inches (corrected to four places of
decimals), the precise length of the Sacred Cubit of the Great Pyramid.
Thus the Earth's mean polar radius measures 10,000,000 Sacred Cubits or
250,000,000 Pyramid inches; hence the Pyramid inch is the 500,000,000th
of the Earth's polar diameter (Rutherford 1957:75,76).

Scientists actually call the measuring unit "polar diameter inch".

A google search for the term "polar diameter inch" brings up no
scientific links. Only links to your posts at the EvC forum,
abovetopsecret.com, and a couple of other pyramidology websites. It
seems no scientist uses or has ever used this term


What kind of person would dismiss evidence because he cannot find what
he wants on the Internet ?

A ordinary yuppie.

The phrase "polar diameter inch" to my knowledge was coined by Tom
Valentine in "Great Pyramid: Mans Monument to Man" (1975)

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?&isbn=0523235178&nsa=1

Evidence is primarily found in books, Stile.


25 pd inches = one GP cubit, or "Sacred Cubit" as Rutherford calls it.

The GP has a square base. Each side measures 365.242 GP cubits = number
of days in the Solar year.

Let me grant for the moment that this cobbled together measurement that
you call the sacred cubit is actually something that the ancient
Egyptians used when building the pyramid. Are you suggesting that the
sides are somehow remarkable, or they didn't know the length of a year?


http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/his_html/smyth_20.html

Map produced by the United States Coast Survey, Henry Mitchell 1868
source: Peter Lemesurier, "Decoding the Great Pyramid" (1977).

"The Great Pyramid of Gizeh stands at the geometric center and yet at
the southern extremity of the Quadrant. The southern extremity, being
the northenmost edge of the Giza plateau where the Great Pyramid stands
looking over the fan-shaped sector of Egypt, was in ancient times at
the boundary where the cultivated land touched the desert. This plateau
was called Giza, which is the Arabic word for edge or border.

Nope. The word Giza in Arabic means "hewn stone." Also, why would
ancient Egyptians in 2500 BC name the plateau after an Arabic word when
Egyptians didn't begin speaking Arabic until the 7th century CE? The
ancient Egyptians would have called it something else, though I imagine
that name is lost. The Arabs that conquered Egypt in the 7th century
must have just been lucky to refer to Giza by that name so that it
would match Gene Scott's interpretation of Isaiah.


You are entitled to your opinion but it is unsupported like mine.

It was
this unusual location that first suggested the Great Pyramid was the
monument spoken of in the Scriptures by Isaiah the prophet. Since the
full official name of the Pyramid, the Great Pyramid of Giza, means, in
English, the Great Pyramid of the Border, the answer to the apparently
contradictory defintion of Isaiah is found in the Great Pyramid. The
only spot on the face of the Earth that completely answers this
description, both geometrically and geographically, is the precise
place where the Great Pyramid actually stands" (Capt 1971).

Isaiah 19:19,20

"In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the
land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.

Except that the pyramid is not a pillar. Pillars and pyramids are very
different things. And the pyramids are in north central Egypt, not on
the border.


Typical ignorance.

The word in the Hebrew = "monument" (Strongs #04676).

An altar is a place of death OR a place of testimony (Dr. Scott). The
context fits the latter.

The GP is exactly on the border of Upper and Lower Egypt AND in the
middle of the Nile-Delta quadrant. This was irrefutably evidenced. You
are wholly dishonest. It is a compliment to the evidence (inability to
refute) and confirms what everyone (40 percent of the U.S.) knows about
Darwinists: not loyal to all evidence, only loyal to evidence that can
be interpreted to support atheist worldview.



And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in
the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the
oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he
shall deliver them."

Sounds more like a retelling of Exodus than a future prophecy.


Dr. Scott: The location of "in the midst of the land of Egypt" is the
exact center of the Nile-Delta quadrant, and "the border thereof" is
the exact border between Upper and Lower Egypt. Therefore, only in
Egypt can you be in the middle and on the border at the same time. The
GP was built on this exact spot just like the verse says.

http://members.tripod.com/conifer.co/pyramid_scripture.htm

Dr. Scott is incorrect. From the Encyclopedia of the Orient: "The
southern border of Upper Egypt is traditionally at Aswan, in ancient
times Yabu, now on the island of Elephantine. Other definitions set it
Abu Simbel, 280 km further south along the Nile."

Neither Aswan nor Abu Simbel is anywhere near the Giza Plateau


Last comment above reconfirmed.



The GP was exactly 5449 pd inches from the ground to the original
summit platform, thus providing spectacular corroboration that the
monument identified in Isaiah 19 is the GP.

Except that Isaiah mentions a pillar, not a pyramid, and says nothing
about the height of said pillar.


Only if your ignore all of the evidence and links in the post which you
have done.


Vandalism and weather has diminished the height of the summit platform
today. No need to worry. The Designer in-built a way to preserve this
measurement. The length of the long descending entry passage followed
to its end after a short horizontal = 5449 pd inches. The combined
length of each Queens Chamber air shafts = 5449 pd inches. The two
Kings Chamber air shafts exit the 101st course and the other the 102nd
course. 101 +102 = 203 = the total number of courses from the ground to
the original summit platform. Somehow the Designer must have known that
the original summit platform would suffer height altering damage
(Lemesurier 1977).

I'm sure you can finagle any number of measurements to come up with the
number you're looking for.


These are exact measurements confirmed by several surveyors taken from
the source cited.

Your comment confirms the evidence and cries "fraud" = what happens
when a Darwinist confronts evidence that destroys his atheist
worldview.

Atheist anthropologists assert tranistional when the validity of their
worldview depends on the identification, yet you never ask for evidence
to support their assertions.

GP evidence is irrefutable. We have dozens of surveyors figures from
the late 1800s until the late 1970s and they all match. These figures
were obtained by atheists and Christians.

Your posts are now like Dana's - intentional nonsense indicating
intense anger caused by the inability to refute.

Why do atheists and Darwinists evade such clear physical evidence with
such nonsense ?

Romans 1:18

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness
and unrighteousness of men, who ***suppress the truth*** in
unrighteousness"

Answer: Because the Bible is true corresponding to reality.

Ungodly = atheists

unrighteousness in context means those who reject faith as the way to
relate to God (verse 17).

Who rejects God and faith ?

Darwinists, agnostics and of course atheists.

What do these persons do ?

Verse 18 says they ***SUPPRESS THE TRUTH*** = what you and all atheists
do, Stile. You guys suppressed IC for obvious reasons = Bible
corresponds to reality.

"But I am a Muslim"

Then why are you acting like an atheist or Darwinist ?

Answer: Because you are an atheist - your actions are the proof.

How do we explain your false belief about yourself (I am a Muslim).

Deception is the chief trait of the great Satan.

You give reality correspondence to the effects of his invisible
presence.

Dualism is true.

Ray



I could go on and on about its wonders, but this will have to suffice
for now.

Ray

The pyramids are a wonderful feat of engineering and a testament to the
ages of the wealth and might of ancient Egypt and her Pharoahs, but
nothing more.

.

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