Tweedy's Turkana Boy


Richard Clayton wrote:
Ray Martinez wrote:

[snip]

Don't get me wrong, I would like peer support, and I have it in my own
Creationist world here in Los Angeles. I predict Creationists and
IDists will support me in droves after reading "Darwin"ism Refuted".

I predict major creationist organizations will ignore you as just
another nutter, like George Hammond and Ed Conrad. At best you'll be
what politicians call a "useful idiot;" at worst you'll embarrass them
and they'll wish you would shut up.

[snip]

I bow to the evidence

No, you don't. You run from it. Case in point: You still owe me a
creationist explanation for the GULO gene and endogenous retroviral
insertions, among other things. And Mr. Dana Tweedy has been hounding
you about the Turkana Boy skeleton for longer than I can remember.

Richard:

I do not know anything about your retroviral insertions. I have asked
Dana to post an argument about his boy but it has never materialized.

Here is the Creationist position about Turkana Boy:

It does not actually prove anything UNLESS two earth shattering
assumptions are made.

1. Assume special creation is false.

2. Assume design seen in nature does not indicate work of invisible
Designer.

What kind of persons would make such assumptions (atheists) ?
Regardless though, assumptions are not evidence.

A skeleton, does not, in itself, prove that apes are in the human
lineage because apes bones and anatomy are very similar from the
get-go. If a person rejects special creation and design then you have
no other alternative and the view loses all objectivity, much like a
third world country going to the polls with only one person on the
ballot.

The next reason: extreme credulity.

The next reason: Dr. Scott: "Only morons would even consider such
obvious nonsense."

All of the above is physically supported by the amount of CLAIMED
fossil evidence, which we know is so scarce that it is held in bank
vaullts. If human evolution was true, then there would be a
commensurate amount of evidence for this extraordinary claim.

Apes morphing into men ?

The Bible reports a lot of miracles but this is not one of them.

May I also remind that the Stone Age ends anywhere from 100,000 to
4,000 BC.

We know the Great Pyramid was built anywhere between 12,000 and 3,000
BC. The facts of ultra-intelligence that the monument possesses falsify
the existence of a Stone Age, and prove the Biblical claim that man
began ultra-intelligent, and not as evolution claims: progressing from
an ape ancestor. No person in 3,000 BC knew advanced math, the shape of
the Earth and its EXACT dimensions, especially some cave dwelling wife
beater with a dunce IQ. The GP (physical evidence) falsifies human
evolution in its tracks.

Ray

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