Re: Evolutionary question concerning God.


someone5 wrote:

Firstly you must understand, that the proof is based on our current
understanding of how the physical world works. Our scientific evidence
shows that whether any 'energy' we have observed experiences or not,
and whether that experience makes sense, does not effect how that
energy behaves. It behaves according to laws which don't take the
experience into account. Do you agree that I am correctly representing
Physics and Chemistry?


A molecule is not solid nor liquid nor gas. Yet a body, which is made
of molecules can be in one of those states. The aggregation state is an
example of 'emergent property': a property that emerges in a complex
system made of smaller systems that don't have such property.
So, even if the molecules of our brain don't experience anything, but
our brain, as a whole, can. That would be another emergent property.

And like the aggregation state, that property would affect the
behaviour of the system, even if the behavior of the individual atoms
still obeys the basic laws of physics.

How can consciousness be an illusion, firstly what is the observer of
the illusion, secondly what is the difference between consciousness and
and illusion of consciousness?

Some philosophers argued that. They argue that consciousness cannot be
studied using science, so it doesn't exist. But since we somewhat
experience it, it's an illusion. It's a kind of materialist position.

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