Re: Faulty reasoning


Wakboth wrote:
m...@xxxxxxxxxx kirjoitti:

The common argumentation techniquest which I think most expose the
evolutionist flaws are:

1. Name-calling.

"moron"

I'd say name-calling is at least as common on the creationist side as
on the evolution side. Furthermore, if you're referring to Dana
Tweedy's habit of calling you moron, I think he's entitled to do that,
based on his long and fruitless attempts at teaching you anything about
science and evolution.

Actually that's the best he can do. Claiming that science doesn't prove
anything when it clearly has, "law of gravity" and also
predictability, certainly indicates that his claim is false.



2. Circular reasoning.

"other methods are used...other layers are dated..." but no specifics.

The specifics have been showed down your throat time and time again.

No they have not. The current on-going debate demonstrates adequately.
Certainly he, Tweedy, will prove that you can date strata, but he has
totally failed to do so without use of circular reasoning.


3. Appeals to authority.

It is not a fallacy when the person appealed to is a genuine authority.
Using Einstein's opinions in support of, say, ID is fallacious; using
them in support of general relativity is not.

There are many notable eminent scientists who believe that ID is not
fallacious. And certainly while Einstein's E=M2 has proven to be true
via atomic explosion he totally failed to come up with a universal
theory that explains how his relativism fits in with every known
Newtonian observation. He utterly failed being rather discouraged in
his failure.

JM



"scientists believe" And of course we do not have on hand all the
"scientists" who believe, maybe some sign-up *** or poll.

You could try reading the scientific literature on the subject
(preferably not with orange covers). Or just pay some attention to the
popular science magazines; they are a good way for a layperson to stay
current with what's going on in science.

4. Adhominem.

How does this differ from your flaw #1 ?

5. Clever phrases.

"Goddiddit." Meaningless drivel that has little merit.

An admirably succint description of the creationist position.

Science has proven time and time again that intelligence creates complex things.

It has also shown that intelligence creates simple things; in fact,
simplicity is usually taken as a sign of superior design.

Furthermore, science has shown, time and time again, stochastic
processes such as evolution can create both complex and simple things.

-- Wakboth

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